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[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 41 points 3 weeks ago

Why would a war with China star?

China has been a fucking angel when it comes to not increasing tensions and letting america act like they're hot shit in charge of everything because they know they're running laps around us economically and with the green energy boom they're leaving us in the dust.

America can't honestly think they can go toe to toe with a military peer halfway around the world, we haven't won a war against impoverished farmers in decades.

Do people think it looks like an actual attempt to invade China (lmao) or just like a huge naval battle around Taiwan?

Also America is too out of shape and broken from a complete lack of Healthcare leading to preventable diseases becoming lifelong ailments to even attempt a draft, that's before you consider half of the country would riot if the party they dont support tried to institute a draft.

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah they're hoping for an invasion of Taiwan, they talk a fair bit in the article about the difficulty of naval invasions. Which is like, fair enough, but a hundred miles gap puts Taiwan and any US troops there in range of thousands of Chinese missiles. One imagines that an invasion gets a lot easier after sinking a US carrier group or two.

That said, I don't see China going for it. Both countries are pretty okay with the status quo or maybe reunification in the coming decades, but very few people want war.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

I can see a reverse cuban missile crisis playing out, but the US being the US just launching the nukes at some point

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

With modern missile tech is there even any reason to put nuclear missiles in Taiwan? I was under the impression that ICBMs have basically made that pointless. Oh no, the targets will live for 5-10 whole minutes longer during the travel time.

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

It kinda matters in that there's a chain of command before you can retaliate. Someone has to see the missiles, make sure it's not a malfunction, tell their boss who tells their boss, etc. Ideally your missiles land before the counterattack starts. This is why deploying missiles in eastern Europe was such a big deal to Putin as well.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

Uh yeah, lockheed martins quarterly reports needs it. Checkmate commie

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

Pshaw, they can get that money by investing into hypersonic missiles to get that number down from 5-10 minutes to 2-3.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't think the US has capacity to make hypersonic missiles though, so that would require the arms manufacturers to actually do some research and improve manufaturing

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Hmm, you're right, and that wouldn't be very profitable. Perhaps they should see if they can buy the technology from China! i-love-not-thinking

[-] Speaker@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

I expect that reunification will only become more likely when the US appropriates the TSMC foundry in Arizona and leaves Taipei to rot.

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

the US appropriates the TSMC foundry in Arizona and leaves Taipei to rot.

Lol, that shit's never getting built

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

If you ask some dip shit general with a BS in psychology, he 'knows how the enemy thinks' and has determined that war is inevitable.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago

Kind of like an arsonist with a lit match in one hand and a recently emptied can of gas in the other hand saying a fire is gonna break out any day now.

[-] ShareThatBread@hexbear.net 12 points 3 weeks ago

The USA is a firefighter that very obviously was also an arsonist.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

It's also crazy how closely this aligns with the actual realities of fire fighters in this country.

The only local cases of arson I'm aware of were all started by firefighters looking to be heros and they were all caught when an investigator pointed out it's weird that a volunteer firefighter just happened to stumble across a fire in a remote building with no electric connection 3 minutes after the fire started.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 14 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's just actually the same thing the nazis suffered under: Triumph of the will. Except it's coated in burgerland language "freedoms" and so on. Probably the same brainworms as the ones they had in the bay of pigs: "The people will rise up against the evil gommunist overlords!" + "We're just better"

[-] Sleazy_Albanese@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

and with the green energy boom they're leaving us in the dust.

Im all for it but how is that an economic or strategic advantage?

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago

They realized that the entire world was going to switch to green energy and started manufacturing solar panels and turbines.

They saw the next gold rush and set up a shovel factory. They have an incredible manufacturing advantage on breakout technologies that are gonna be the future equivalent of controlling the oil derrick while also having the benefit of undeniable moral high ground while improving air and water quality for their citizens.

Meanwhile in America one of the two major parties is at "solar power isn't real because the sun goes down and w8ndnpower doesn't work because sometimes the wind isn't blowing and also it gives you cancer."

It would be like if around 1900 one country was ramping up assembly lines for automobiles and another countrys national policy was that cars are the devil and they were instead focusing completely on doubling down on increasing production of horse feed.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Meanwhile in America one of the two major parties is at “solar power isn’t real because the sun goes down and w8ndnpower doesn’t work because sometimes the wind isn’t blowing and also it gives you cancer.”

And the second one is bragging about doing more fracking and more drilling than the above.

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