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The Poison in my Life
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I keep seeing the trump hitler analogy but where's the actual evidance. I did also see a yt vid of a holocaust survivor saying that the trump hitler analogy is offensive and wrong so just kinda seems like propaganda ngl.
Project 2025 literally promises to put people in concentration camps wtf do you mean "where's the actual evidence"
It only mentions him by name over 300 times.
Didnt trump claim he has nothing to do with project 2025?
Except many of the people who wrote it work on his campaign. Nothing to do with it is a lie, because he's hired them.
One of the main guys is his running mate.
I think the best example is his rhetoric regarding immigrants. Even if you ignore the "poisoning the blood" comments practically being a 1:1 of Hitler's rhetoric, the idea of deportating an increasingly longer list of people (including his political opponents) would require opening up detention camps to indefinitely detain them since it's unclear where you even would deport most of them to.
While he isn't explicitly sending said detainees to the ovens, the parallels to pre-war Hitler are way more founded than back in 2008 GOP calling Obama Hitler for... some reason.
Deporting illegal immigrants is literally hitler hey? Look i dont like what he stands for but perhaps it a little extreme to compare deporting illegal immigrants to murdering 6million people.
Hitler also said a lot about how every (german) man deserves a family, land, a house, and a job which is the same thing that practically every politician ever has promised.
Did I say illegal immigrants? He's threatened to deport way more than that, including legal immigrants, trans kids, political opponents, and more. Deporting political opponents doesn't even make sense unless he's really just saying he wants to detain them. Even if it's a lie, scapegoating minority groups is a solid fascist tactic.
Has he any evidance of these claims? You are scapegoating minority groups right now. By scapegoating the right wing extremists to get people to vote for the person u want.
Lol.
Maybe you should actually learn what happened in Germany in the years leading up to those 6 million people being murdered. It's not like all of Germany woke up one day and voted to start gassing Jews. It started with rhetoric exactly like what's spewing out of Trump's mouth these days.
Blame the 'other' for all your troubles. Then dehumanize the other (we are here). Then start rounding them up.
Do we have to wait until he puts the first person in an oven to do anything about it? That's how his supporters (you) seem to think. But we're not stupid. Some of us actually learned from history.
The evidence is up your ass, where you pull all of your opinions from.
Well this isnt a good faith engagement of ideas this is just i have no argument and i must scream.
Trump has praised Hitler multiple times and is clearly a fascist. It makes sense that people compare him to Hitler, given the latter is the defacto example of extreme fascism.
The fact you made the comment that you made on this post tells me "good faith argument" isn't in your repertoire.
Don't feed the walrus
But it's fun and he keeps clapping his little flippers!!!
(Also you right)
U know when someone asks for evidance they dont expect a vague he has done x i claim it to be true and he is clearly self evidently by my opinion of the persuasion i claim. Ur opinion is not evidance its ur subjective view of the world.
Also continuing to insult me still isnt good faith.
You just asked where's ð evidence ð kids in cages guy might be on ð hitler spectrum and ðen got pissy people didn't assume you were asking a good faiþ question.
I generally disdain google is your friend comments, but bro, use some common sense.
too true, Trump is much closer to Mussolini, weaponized incompetence writ large
There were forced hysterectomies women were made to undergo in ICE custody. His supporters claim crime is linked to race, rather than poverty/alienation/neglect. Both attacked trans people and education around them. Both supported street thugs like The Proud Boys and other rightwing groups (the ones that Trump told to "stand by" with violence, or the ones he said "were fine people"). Both were supported by a coalition of rightwing racists, like those who turned up to the Unite The Right Rally and the Tiki torch rally. Both pushed conspiracy theories, and specifically ideas around "Cultural Marxism/Bolshevism". Both spread misinformation and targeted the safety of their opponents "the traitorous left". Both claimed to have victories they didn't actually win. Both used executive orders to skirt democratic processes. Both won elections then rigged elections. Both had a sense of how to do propaganda. Both were sexual deviants with history of attraction to young girls. Both found support among wealthy business owners who did so for financial motives. Both praised and made alliances with other fascists and Authoritarians.
Trump's ex-wife even said he kept a book of Hitler's speeches on his bedside table, she said that before he ever ran for office.
This is malinfornation and false1
What some of ur supporters may claim means nothing here is a hypothetical example. "Im a kamala harris supporter and i think crime is purly because of race and we should execute all non white people" anyone can say that doesnt mean thats kamala harris supports it. Also race is statistically correlated with crime so it is linked just not causationaly so technically they are correct.
Anyone can make a venn diagram of Hitlers beliefs and anyone else and end up with a list just as long as this.
When has trump targeted the safety of the traitorous left opponents. Who? U spread misinformation with ur claim about mass historectomies so i guess ur hitler.
"We beat medicare" - president biden
Did we really?
How does utilising an executive order put in place for the executive within a democratic system constitute skirting a democratic purpose? Do the democrads do primaries cos how did kamala end up the nominated? How has trump rigged this election?
This described almost every single politician in the history of politicians.
"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle." - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Okay, do so with Hitler and Kamala Harris.
Sure
That's only 7 items, none are particular to Hitler's fascism. Mine was 14 items, and particular to Hitler's fascism.
You said your list would be "just as long".
You may as well have included "Hitler had two legs, Kamala has two legs".
Do you understand that the lists are supposed to reference elements of fascism?
But I'll be generously and say two items relate to fascism: taxing tobacco, and increased firearm restrictions... The rest are pretty positive.
Come on buddy, only 12 more items to tie. Hell I'll be impressed if you come up with 7 more (especially if they actually relate to fascism).
P.S Almost all presidents have an infrastructure bill. Probably as many as have two legs. Again you're including too many generalities ...I used none. All mine were specific to fascism. I'm calling out your sophistry.
The official bipartisan US government investigation put it at 2, your Reason link lists 1. So a long way from the "mass hysterectomies" that were the sensationalist claims made. You're right to push back on it.
There were still over 40 cases of invasive gynecological procedures done without consent, but it is not the claim made.
I mean there's the whole rally they just had at Madison Square Garden
How does have a rally in a specific area make u a nazi? Thats gotta be the stupidest argument ive ever heard. By that logic the current german president is a nazi cos the building their office in in.
If you think I'm referring exclusively to the location then you clearly haven't actually read or listened to anything that was said at the rally in question.
I read the nytimes article and the quotes where bit offensive but i wouldnt say literally hitler level.
The person you're arguing with is called crocodile munted and the flag next to their name is Australian.
There is a slim chance they're not able to vote in the us elections
I'm not sure if you've picked it up so to clearly spell it out: irritating other people for the simple pleasure of watching them becoming more irritated is a national sport in Australia.
Im an aussie i have no horse in this race. Im here to take the piss outa everyone for my own amusement. Trump is literally hitler is an exaggeration and u know it.
https://youtu.be/nfWwyZLTOaI
Everything is Hitler.
Trump is a shitshow (pun intended), but there's also Trump Derangement Syndrome.
There's also lots of historical comparisons that can be made.