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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by dragonfucker@lemmy.nz to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Five days ago, drag was banned from !politicalmemes@lemmy.world for using neopronouns. A comment explaining drag's pronouns, and a comment saying "drag" isn't a nickname, were removed with the reason "trolling". Drag understands why someone would think that using different pronouns than most people is trolling - transphobia. However, drag is confused how on earth not liking a nickname is a violation of any rules anywhere.

Context of the removed comments:

Drag would like to pre-empt any further accusations of trolling by asking a question: If drag were a right wing troll, and you chose to freely accept drag's pronouns, wouldn't that completely neuter the trolling attempt? Trolling is about trying to make others upset. You don't have to get upset when someone uses unusual pronouns. If you aren't transphobic, then it's impossible to troll you that way. And drag promises: drag wants you to not be transphobic. Drag is not trying to upset anyone. If you do what drag wants you to do, then you get what you want too. This is a non-issue, there's only a problem if you want there to be.

EDIT: DRAG DID NOT TELL ANYBODY TO USE DRAG'S PREFERRED PRONOUNS.

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

YDI. Replacing ungendered pronouns and insisting on their usage by others to refer to you is, at best, being annoying for its own sake. Like that fellow who insisted that their gender was 'droneself', or Phlubbadubba suddenly taking up Old English.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

I remember that person, I'm basically convinced they were a troll, they're basically taking advantage of the fact that decent and well meaning people try their best to follow pronoun preferences, and are asking them to do something extremely difficult and lashing out and abusing those people when they make a mistake.

Honestly I have great hostility towards people who do this shit, because they are utilizing pronoun preferences as a form of bad-faith trolling so they can accuse people of being transphobes. I've had a lot of moments where I made myself feel really bad about encounters like this and felt like an awful person only to figure out later either from going back on the history of the interaction, or from talking with my other trans friends that I wasn't wrong or the asshole, they were.

I have a friend who does legitimately use noun pronouns (demon/demonself), however they also use they/them and ze/zir and they don't flip out when people don't use demon/demonself pronouns, they also don't yell at people for getting their pronouns wrong on accident. They usually just correct people, if it was on purpose they have gotten mad, they told me about a time when some transphobic right-winger insisted they were a "boy with boobs" and they did yell at that person, but they wouldn't yell at a random person IRL or online for saying miss/ma'am/sir because that isn't a reasonable or respectful reaction to something that was or likely was a mistake.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

Drone rights!

That was fundamentally a narcissist co-opting gender politics to control conversations. I think we’re seeing something similar here.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee -5 points 1 week ago

They didn't insist anyone use it, they only explained it. This doesn't merit removing comments, let alone a ban.

[-] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago

DroneRights? They absolutely insisted, to the point of creating a community dedicated to chronologging the extent of their victim complex and persecution fetish

The only reason that stopped is because they kept getting banned when they would post to that community from their ban evading alts

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago

I think it's very concerning that at no point did the admins of that server ever intervene and axe that community and user for their vile and harassing behavior. Like accusing user Stamets of being a racist for, I don't even actually know, because he disagreed with them? Because he banned them? I don't even remember. It was stupid and uncalled for.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

No, they absolutely insist. Constantly.

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