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I've got a spicy take, but desperately want to get it off my chest
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I mean... they're genocidal war criminals inside the system.
Sisko sure was.
The important thing is that he could live with it
Janeway murdering Tuvix was a cliff for me. Couldn't come back from that, no matter her moral equivocating.
I think it's so funny that people are so pissed at her about Tuvix and just ignore the fact that she essentially tried to wipe out Species 8472. But that's okay because they're "the bad guys." Every last one of the trillions of them.
As someone who grew up on TNG, and Picard, I just never found Janeway to embody any of the qualities of a Starfleet Captain, as they had been outlined. She lacked the essential intellectual curiosity that was supposed to be the bedrock of exploration.
So I can chalk it up to the writers, but that's still an L for the series, as a whole.
I agree, janeway was straight up a bad captain. I can dismiss some of it as being stranded, but she barely towed the starfleet line.
*just fyi, the idiom is you toe a line, as in step up to the line.
Maxwell too
He'll probably invoke some kind of godhood defence. The federation is pretty fucked up in general.
Trek writers really revel in the idea that the Federation and Starfleet are actually super flawed and not a utopia at all.
Which is a little annoying honestly.
they grew up with the idea that their country was a "shining city on a hill" and that ideal was shattered. they want to put it into their fiction, and they got hired for star trek. the federation is the "shining city on a hill" equivalent in star trek. At least that's what I'm taking from it.