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I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I'm an idiot.

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[-] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

Why does Hamas get to say they want to eradicate Israel as a state and have Arab-majority control over the region, but Israel doesn't get to say they want to control the entire region? What makes who correct to say that in either case?

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Israel is saying they want to destroy Hamas which is the government of Gaza.

And they are saying they want to control the region. They call it Greater Israel.

[-] BNE@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because Palestine is a multifaith, multicultural country and Israel is a colonial foothold & apartheid that is actively and systemically trying to erase both Palestine and Palestinians.

Resistance is justified, oppression is not.

[-] frazorth@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Your confusing a state with a people.

Hama's want to stop Israel (the state) from existing as they occupy of their territory, and make them live in internment camps.

Israel wants to stop the Palestinian people from existing, because they are an inconvenience.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Because Israel set up an apartheid state. If they had set about building a representative democracy that included a constitutional right of return for Jews nobody would have had a problem. Instead they want to own all this land and oppress the people who live there.

Either that's a legitimate goal or it isn't. I don't think it is.

[-] HomerianSymphony@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

but Israel doesn't get to say they want to control the entire region?

What do you mean Israel doesn't "get" to say that?

Israel does say that, and Israel does control the entire region, and almost every Western power allows them to.

[-] Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I guess I meant to ask why is it morally okay for Palestinians to want to do that, but not morally ok for Israelis to want to do that. Is it because Israel is an apartheid, ethnostate?

[-] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Palestinians want the right to return from where they were ethnically cleansed, Israel wants to maintain a Jewish majority state.

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