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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by dragonfucker@lemmy.nz to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Five days ago, drag was banned from !politicalmemes@lemmy.world for using neopronouns. A comment explaining drag's pronouns, and a comment saying "drag" isn't a nickname, were removed with the reason "trolling". Drag understands why someone would think that using different pronouns than most people is trolling - transphobia. However, drag is confused how on earth not liking a nickname is a violation of any rules anywhere.

Context of the removed comments:

Drag would like to pre-empt any further accusations of trolling by asking a question: If drag were a right wing troll, and you chose to freely accept drag's pronouns, wouldn't that completely neuter the trolling attempt? Trolling is about trying to make others upset. You don't have to get upset when someone uses unusual pronouns. If you aren't transphobic, then it's impossible to troll you that way. And drag promises: drag wants you to not be transphobic. Drag is not trying to upset anyone. If you do what drag wants you to do, then you get what you want too. This is a non-issue, there's only a problem if you want there to be.

EDIT: DRAG DID NOT TELL ANYBODY TO USE DRAG'S PREFERRED PRONOUNS.

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[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago

Yeah once you start messing with first person and second person pronouns it just starts to break language. It can make sentences awkward and confusing and can even cause confusion of whether or not they are talking about different people with their own pronoun. I've seen dragonfucker refer to other people as "drag" even though they might deny it in this thread, makes it really confusing.

As an example of where it really doesn't work I was once asked by someone (not dragonfucker) to refer to them with me/my pronouns. I couldn't do it because I didn't even know how that would work and they flipped out at me and said I was a transphobe and a cissy. However me/my doesn't work as a pronoun.

"Ze went to the store and bought Zirself some juice." ✅

  • Works well
  • has correct sentence structure
  • you can tell "Ze" refers to someone else

"Me went to the store and bought myself some juice." ❌

  • Is clunky and awkward
  • Isn't grammatically functional
  • Not clear that "Me" refers to someone esle

As you can see, it doesn't really work, and I think that was the point of the person who insisted I use Me/My pronouns with them. They wanted to make me feel bad, and/or possibly scared of consequences. Thankfully though I can recognize this as a type of trolling, and so can most people. Which is why dragonfucker is getting banned on a growing number of communites.

By the way obligatory link to arbitrary Lemmy community ban tutorial allows you to ban anyone you want from any community you want. Can help with bad faith people who haven't posted in your community yet or are avoiding doing so directly to avoid the ban. This takes care of it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Well considering the motherfucker got banned from World News for intentionally misgendering my daughter as part of the harassment and tripled down on it in this thread, I'm thinking it's more about being a massive fucking hypocrite troll.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 16 hours ago

Oh yeah I wholeheartedly agree, this person seems like DroneRights 2.0, maybe a less loud and aggressive version but ultimately still DroneRights 2.0.

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