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Me neither. I was convinced this mad times are finally over with harris and that we could have convinced her to stop supporting genocide-Bibi.
Now we have this fucking dictator loving orange clown, again. FFS how can people vote for this motherfucker after those 4(or even 8) years of nightmares (Biden did not manage to undo all the horrible stuff trump has done)
He expanded upon them
That was never going to happen, she was adamant about her support for Israel even when it was obviously detrimental to her.
Yes, I agree with you, my friend. Also, Hartz is not ideal. But we were hoping that there would be American pressure on it to stop the genocide, unlike Trump, he doesn’t care about anyone, he’s crazy
We can't depend on Democrats to stop Trump, this is now incredibly well proven. We have 4 years to figure out something else.
I fear many won’t survive another 4 years 😞
That's fine, but it doesn't change anything. It's time to get offline and start fighting even if everyone is gonna die. Let me know if you don't know where to start.
😄I start by making my own commune somewhere hidden in the Swiss Alps
I was also wondering how these people agreed to him in the elections. This world has become full of lunatics. Even Haaretz and Trump are two sides of the same coin. He will say continue the war and Haaretz will say stop the war while continuing the genocide.
There is never the choice between good and bad, but Harris had more good than trump, which in my opinion has none good other than chaos which may lead collapse to new societies which may or may not be better..
What exactly? Trump said mean things? What about Kamala is good/better?
Both wanted fracking/oil drilling Both didn't care about trans people (Kamala: we have to follow the law) Kamala actively put marginalized people from her community into jail on marijuana charges while Trump bankrupted a few casinos. Both want hostile relations with China.
If anything, Kamala/Joe ramped up two wars. Trump actually wants to end Ukraine. (we'll see)
So how exactly is either one worse? Orange man say bad thing?
Edit: You know what, I could give you "character". Sure. Creepy orange guy. Then again, the democrats ran Biden...so.
The difference for me is that Harris isn’t notoriously lying all the time (I mean completely senseless lies, often contradicting himself, like way out of logic)
But if you see no difference 🤷🏻 I don’t know..
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/31/kamala-harris-flip-flop-on-fracking-frames-fight-f/
https://nypost.com/2024/09/27/opinion/kamala-harris-intentional-lack-of-clarity-on-israel-raises-red-flags/
She did that too. 🤷🏻 I don’t know…
But I guess you're right. At the end of the day, the only real difference is that ones a angry mean cheeto and the other one really tells you the things you want to hear!
I've completely whooped your fucking ass on every defending point you have for her yet you choose to plug your ears and worship the democratic party..
Hu? Lol? I think you read my writing wrong.. How am I a democrat worshipper exactly by just trying ti write that you can vote for the lesser evil and still organise FFS
You sat here and defended Harris the entire time we've been speaking...my bad I assumed? It's not the bad of an approximation but you know what, I do apologize for that if that isn't the case.
However, the lesser evil option is PSL. Greens haven't committed genocide or bombing campaigns either.
Of course! I want green parties everywhere in the world, but in fucked up voting system, you sometimes have vote wrong to vote right, that is way you organise as well, trying to split the big parties up into many sub-parties.