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[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 9 hours ago

Kamala was a neoliberal, who would improve things incrementally, running against a fascist. We all knew she wasn't an ideal candidate and told people that. I know I did. We know the Democrats are neoliberals, a right leaning political position. We needed to delay fascism four more years to get a progressive or socialist candidate in the next Democratic primary. We failed.

It's over. We lost the election. You were had. I'm sorry that happened. It can happen to anyone.

Take a break, when you feel better, come back. People will be organizing to fight back against fascists. This time, please join them instead of arguing against them. Saying 'both sides' isn't helping.

[-] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

You were had.

It's people like you that just prove my point.

I voted for Harris. I wasn't "had."

We needed to delay fascism four more years to get a progressive or socialist candidate in the next Democratic primary.

Yeah, I'm fucking tired of hearing this. Y'know what could've delayed fascism and turned out the vote? Any measurable progress for the average American over the last four years.

You're so oblivious to it, and you act like you're the only one who actually gets it. You think Biden's mental acuity dropped overnight in July?

The DNC was well aware of his declining mental health well before that, well before the primaries. And they hid it, and actively chose to hide it from the country, all while acting like all was completely fine. Then they waited for the debate, saw it went disastrously, and then decided it'd be best to run another candidate. Except, le gasp, there is not enough time to run a full primary! Oh no! What do we do?!

Eh, we'll just run the VP, and we'll run her on a centrist platform to try and win over Republicans. Yeah, yeah... That'll do it.

Where was Bernie in that discussion? Or better yet, how did it go trying to get Bernie as the candidate in 2016? I distinctly remember the DNC acting completely above board the entire time, listening to their constituents, and running a progressive campaign tha-

Oh, wait, no, that's all a lie. Historically, factually, it was a lie. The DNC has made it clear they will not, ever, support a progressive candidate. They showed us that in 2016, they showed us in 2020, and even when faced with fucking fascism, they refused to run a progressive platform in 2024.

This time, please join them instead of arguing against them. Saying 'both sides' isn't helping.

Oh go fuck yourself. Playing the "Just four more years of centrism, we promise for realz this time, 100%" is not helping.

Speaking to people on here like they're some misguided child who spilled a glass of milk is "not helping."

Trying to distance the Democrats from the conservative party they are and continue to show themselves to be "isn't helping."

Fuck you.

[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

We're on the same team. We try get to the Democrats to win because as progressives and socialists we are outside the Overton Window in the US. Getting the Democrats to win and move to the left is the strategy minority groups have been doing for decades. Disinformation campaigns to make people lose sight of that fundamental strategy is part of how Harris lost. A lot of younger people didn't know better and fell for it.

Israel's genocide in Gaza has been Gen Z's moral injury. Bad actors exploited that to give fascists the win. And a lot of people fell for it.

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