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[-] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

So you gave up hope for a better future a long time ago?

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry but in the face of fascism, idealism should take a backseat. You can't prod a party to do better by voting for the opposition and you shouldn't punish everyone that is more vulnerable then you are just because you don't like your options. The time to build is between presidential elections anyways.

[-] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

But we didn’t get here yesterday. It took a long, long time, as long as I am old ( I am almost 50), for it to get this hot. And Democrats in the US, Social Democrats in Europe own a lion share of this turn to fascism. They’d really rather change words than meanings. Politicians that is, not academics. They dismissed the ones who once gave them this power to change the lives of the working classes for the better. Unfortunately it was the workers themselves, so they lost that support. They thought they could keep their power with support from the corporations that are in direct conflict with the workers. Now this hasn’t worked, what will happen?

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I can only speak to the politics in the US, but you're right in that Democrat officials are largely are wordy with little talk and no bite. I don't know if I directly blame them for the right turning fascist over the last 10 years but you can't fight a growing fire by conceding ground and feeding it while hoping that it'll be less hungry next time. The start of the fire was definitely started by Trump's propaganda in 2016 but the kindling was laid out prior in acts like Citizen's United. People were bored and wanted something different in 2016, republicans being ethically blind to damage their policies might cause. Dems really fucked up by backstabbing Bernie and forcing a bad candidate into the spotlight. 8 years later and they haven't learned anything and the working class is still left behind.

I don't know the answer to forcing the Democratic party to fix its mistakes, I just know where it went wrong.

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

No. Giving up voting is giving up a better future. The system is rigged. But the president is by designed limited in power. Change happens in the congress and local politics. The president merely holds the peices togather.

But congratulations, the short sightedness just handed the keys to the kingdom to a single man. The only check and balance trump has is the infighting within the Republican party and his own incompetence.

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