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[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 131 points 6 days ago

These immigrant haters are so dumb it's hard to get my head around. Illegals are the modern answer to slavery. They work their ass off for shit wages, pay taxes and get zero government benefits. And these rubes want to crash that system?!

Do they think Americans are going to the fields to pick watermelons?

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago

They think the poorest Americans won't have a choice. They dont realize theres actually not enough people to fill out all these freshly vacated "opportunities".

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago

Everyone will find out again what Georgia and Arizona learned and then forgot that it isn't that there isn't enough people, it's that White folks are snowflakes that can't handle the hard ass work.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

No, they don't realize why their strawberry packages are $2.

You are right, and OP is right.

[-] Foreigner@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Here's how I think this will pan out:

Step 1: Mass deportation

Step 2: Mass incarceration

Step 3: Work camps

After all, the US legal framework allows prisoners to be used as slaves, does it not? And the beauty of a fascist system is that enemies are so very, very easy to find.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Incarceration is expensive, be more financially workable to leave the system as is.

[-] Foreigner@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It's only expensive if you care about prisoners' human rights

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

I think you misunderstand the plan. See, a good portion of other jobs will be taken by robots, offshore help, and AI. This leads to firing those employees at those companies where the jobs were taken over, and since there is no UBI and the available jobs will have massive competition, the people will have to take those jobs, be thrown in prison, or be homeless and persecuted (possibly executed) by authorities.

[-] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Thrown into private prisons then forced to work in those farm fields as a way for the private prison industry to make more profits.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Sadly, yeah. I fully expect that. Uuuuugh.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Nope, what you said is exactly what I think

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Ah! I misinterpreted what you wrote. Sorry about that.

Ugh, I really hope it doesn’t turn into that at all.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Its going to. This isn't going away. The Rubes are back with a vengeance abd they're cementing their rule.

[-] Thrillhouse@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

And if they succeed in cementing the Christian theocracy they can control them through religion. They only want freedom for themselves to subjugate everyone else.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 33 points 6 days ago

This will be the main test of whether Trumpism rules or capital rules. The rich people love Republican tax cuts and deregulation, which was the main product of his first term (coincidentally everything the rich didn't like failed), but going after cheap immigrant labor or taxing their foreign sweat shops is going to stir up some behind the scenes conflict. Voters are stupid (e.g., "did Biden drop out" searches), they'll be surprised when the leopards eat their face, the rich people are well aware that the leopards are dangerous and hope that their leopard control devices can get them through unscathed with an even greater piece of the pie.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Maybe they fight amongst themselves over it, wasting time and running down the clock?

Maybe some people join conservative online forums and fan those flames?? Hobbling destruction is always good.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago

"Before you say anything, just hear me out. There's like tons of prisons everywhere, so what if we march the prisoners at gunpoint to work the fields, for free?" ~ Trump administration, probably

[-] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago

100% I think a lot of people don't realize that prisons are modern slavery. Need more slave labor? Send protesters to the gulag.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 days ago

The part that absolutely baffles me is that latinos shifted heavily to vote for Trump, for potentially the deportation of their own family members.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

was speaking with a colleague who lives near Padre - he said he had family members that felt, 'we're legal, we'll be fine, they'll just get rid of the newcomers'

they don't understand this is not a new thing and is racially driven, not truly an immigration issue.

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

Low information voters are Republican mana.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

We told them the leopard was right fucking there and that it loves eating faces. They didn't believe us.

Oh well. 🤷

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

I worked with a Mexican Trump supporter. He hated illegal immigrants because he immigrated legally and he was pissed they got away with it the "easy way".

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

My question to that petty AF dude is, "so what? Can you mind your own fucking business, or are you a sniveling bitch?"

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Mine is: My guy…Pedro hiking through the desert with nothing but half a jug of water and the clothes on his back is not the enemy. The suits shipping labor overseas and still employing undocumented immigrant labor here create this situation and hurting some poor immigrant/refugee seeker doesn’t change anything about that. Punch up not down

Or are you a sniveling bitch

[-] numbermess@fedia.io 25 points 6 days ago

Had this conversation with my stepmom. She is complaining that peaches cost $1 each. She thinks this is too expensive and that the cost will go down now. I'm quietly kind of amazed that she thinks that she'll even find a peach that didn't rot on the ground for less than $10 or whatever they will cost once the labor goes up. I didn't say anything to her about it because it just doesn't matter anymore. It is pointless even to converse about any topic. We experience separate realities. She believes happy days are finally here, and I just don't care if she sees another peach ever again in her lifetime. Whatever happens to the peaches is her fault.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

If she watches Faux or listens to hate radio, it's going to be impossible to talk to them.

I consider people that let hate radio and Faux take a dump in their brain daily more or less zombies on any politically related topic.

[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Isn't that funny... people who SHOULD be smarter than that... people who don't stand outside in the rain and drown from staring at the sky... people who can string two fucking sentences together can't see that any fucking economic policy the new regime is going to implement is going to do anything but send prices through the roof?

I hope I'm being Mr. Dooms-and-glooms... but fuck all...

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

You should have slapped her.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 6 days ago

Do they think Americans are going to the fields to pick watermelons?

Yes, yes they do. They'll cheer the new federal child labor laws that allow for it and the increased prison population that will be forced to work the fields

[-] Jinni@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago

This defense of not deporting people just highlights our issues with labor. This acknowledges that underpaid labor is a necessary part of our economic system.

I am against the deportation of these people but I would not justify it by justifying the system that is trying to under value all of our labor.

[-] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

underpaid labor is a necessary part of our economic system

It is if we want to continue our current standard of living. It's either that or stomp the capitalists at the top of these corporations. Which do you think will actually happen?

[-] Jinni@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

It is if we want to continue our current standard of living

That is what the capitalist at the top say to all of us. This is the inherit problem with this argument.

If a standard of living requires people to suffer then are we right to have that standard of living. Especially since it isn't like we can't all have a decent standard but the rich elites want more and more wealth. They are the problem but instead we want to fool ourselves into thinking that staying in the middle class is something that is sustainable. Unless you can guarantee that you are going to enter the over valued class then you are more likely to enter the under valued class.

Also I really shouldn't have to present it this way, we should be able to recognize that people should be paid what they are worth or at the very least a living wage.

TLDR; Standards of living is not an excuse to have slavery with extra steps

[-] GeorgimusPrime@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

That is the plan. The ensuing chaos will reduce immigrants to second class almost-citizens who will work for even less.

[-] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 5 days ago

They'll agree to pay much higher rent to a landlord so they don't rat them out to ICE.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I think it's about terrorizing their workforces. Construction, ag, meat packing, so many conservative heavy segments of the economy both import enormous amounts of labor, AND, want to legislate the threats to this population.

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