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[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

You provided historical context while not actually addressing the contents of the song. There's really nothing to respond to. Plus, I can't have been ignoring anything since I was asleep. There is no point in spamming this.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I actually just copied someone else's post because you accused someone if ignoring something while completely ignoring this person's post. You are a hypocrite who can't seem to accept that words mean different things in different contexts. You are hung up on how we perceive things today and not the world as it was at the time this work was created.

Do you know that the phrase "hey what's in this drink" was an excuse to do things you wanted to do but were not supposed to do.

You keep referring to a movie that used this song. And it's fine to argue that the scenes in the movie reflect a woman who doesn't want to be there, but this song is not that movie, however much you want it to be your smoking gun.

This song predates that movie. By more than 5 years. That movie, as an explanation of the meaning of this song is absolutely meaningless, yet it is the thing you are focused on.

You aren't listening because you are stuck on something that isn't true and are absolutely refusing to listen to any other point.

You argue like ken ham does.

I've already stopped posting that person's comment on your posts btw. I posted it s few times only to get your attention on it. I will go delete those unless there are replies.

The world is not an easy place to understand. You are trying to make something fit your worldview and while there is no reason you need to like this song, or want to understand it so that it no longer bothers you, i take great exception, given the US putting a convicted felon who was in bed with Jeffrey fucking Epstein and Putin, to seeing refuse to accept reality in favour their view of the world.

Baby it's cold outside is now a song that is only a problem for ignorant people who arent informed enough, are willfully ignorant.

Women matter. Black lives matter. It's important to understand where problems actually exist.

Its okay to be botherer by this song, it has an imagery that is hard not to see and misunderstand by todays standards and sensibilities. Not because the problematic behaviour of the past, such as presented in the movie you wont stop refering to, but because everyone in that era had to work around problematic behaviour. People had to be clever to be who they were in a way that is very different from today

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Jesus fuck, this is some bad faith. I was ignoring nothing. I was asleep. You waited 7 hours to reply to me, and you couldn't let me sleep for 5 without me "ignoring what you don’t want to hear". Waking up and seeing three extremely long comments that amount to re-explaining the historical context of the song while not actually addressing how the song is about pressuring someone into staying over didn't really seem worthy of reply.

Plus, the idea that you copied someone else's comment as spam just makes it worse.

If you're allowed to use "it's an old song" as your argument, then I'm allowed to use the first presentation of the song to the public as mine. And since the presentation of the song has ALWAYS been one person pressuring another into staying over despite their protests, it's always been rapey.

The only real defence in pointing out historical context is to say that a rapey song was not unacceptable for the time period. So what?

The song is a problem for people who don't want to hear someone pressuring someone into illicit relationships. It's not "willfully ignorant", and your idea that someone not liking something is just because they don't understand it is DEEPLY troubling.

If it's okay to be bothered by the song, as you directly state, then why the fuck are you complaining about someone being bothered by the song?

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