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And this is exactly what's wrong with the Democrats, and why Biden never should've run. They're too comfortable in their big houses with all their money and privilege. They have no fucking idea what it's like for most Americans, and clearly they don't care because they've never had to. There is no party in the US to fight for regular people, so they didn't vote.
They are shit but they cant be alarmist reactionaries either. They need change but trying to encourage stability and console people isnt the worst
Except that they've spent the last 6 months telling everyone that it's a choice between them and fascism. Then when fascism comes they're like "oh well, we tried".
I'm just hoping that this loss will eventually make the Dems look inward, but I'm not holding my breath when he's saying shit like this.
I remember everyone saying the exact same in 2016. "Maybe Dems will reflect." Other than putting up a white man for 2020, I can't see a single difference in their approach ever since.
They basically did the same thing, but without super delegates. If the primaries are so corrupt that we just keep losing anyways, then we have no choice but to vote for a third party.
Very valid point, just goes to show the hyperbolic shit flinging that is the core of American politics.
Fascism is something to be alarmed about! It's an existential threat to democracy!
The Democrats had 4 years to do something about it and didn't. "Vote for us or else" is not a long term strategy, all it takes is losing one or two elections.
They had 24 years. We've objectively needed a clone-independent voting system since 2000.
Biden was there to beat Bernie.
Greens are still here! I think we got 600,000 votes this year.
A vote for Stein this year was a vote for Trump. Vote green in your local and state elections to get support growing, don't vote for them for president when they aren't even on enough ballots to win and the alternative is a literal hitler-worshipper.
Edit - Stein was actually on the ballot in 38 states so she technically could've won. I was thinking of Claudia De la Cruz and the PSL party - I have the same sentiment with them this election. These two divided the left and only benefited Trump. Vote green or PSL in your local elections and grow support for the non-democrat left.
Stein was on enough ballots to win. You're thinking of Claudia de la Cruz maybe.
Oh my bad - stein was actually on the ballot in 38 states so she could've won if she won almost all of them, but the chances of that are low enough to not even hope it could've worked.
Are you fucking kidding me, Jill Stein is your answer? Jill I don't know how many people are in the House of Representatives and I refuse to call Putin a war criminal Stein?
Do you have a better idea?
Yea, if you want more leftist policies than right, vote and work with Democrats at the federal level and try to get Ranked voting in more places. Exactly like Bernie has. Continue to support your third party in local until they become able to actually get folks elected to even a Senate post. As long as the Green Party can't even manage to get the most hippy district in the nation to get a single House Rep elected you might as well just cast your vote for Bob Ross.
Fuck the Green party. Jill Stein crawls out of its crypt every 4 years to spend russia's money and steal progressive votes away from the Democratic candidate.