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not true. trump's 2020 numbers were largely the same as his 2024 numbers.
harris got 14,000,000 less votes than biden did in 2020.
Look at swing state votes. Harris actually did better in some swing states than Trump did in 2020. And Trump beat all of Biden's 2020 swing state totals.
The rest of the votes are from states that don't matter thanks to the electoral college. You can have all the pop vote you like, doesn't matter if you don't win the EC.
So yes true, the Trump voters have everything to do with, you know, electing Trump.
She didn't do better in swing states tho, if that were true Trump wouldn't have won in those swing states.
In the swing states, Harris did just about as well or better than Biden. Trump just got more, even more than Biden in 2020.
Wisconsin
Biden 2020: 1.63 million
Harris 2024: 1.667 million
Trump 2024: 1.697 million
Michigan
Biden 2020: 2.804 million
Harris 2024: 2.72 million
Trump 2024: 2.802 million
Georgia
Biden 2020: 2.473 million
Harris 2024: 2.543 million
Trump 2024: 2.66 million
Pennsylvania
Biden 2020: 3.459 million
Harris 2024: 3.352 million
Trump 2024: 3.491 million
Nevada and Arizona are taking their sweet time finishing counts but the story looks similar. 2024 Trump beats even 2020 Biden. So it's not so much that they didn't turn out for Harris, it's that more turned out for Trump.
I would argue that this data shows that this election result is what the American people want. They either didn't mind it happening and didn't vote against it, or they actively voted for it. Democracy in action. It just kinda really sucks that this is what you guys chose.
I was not trying to refute that Trump is what the American voters chose.
The sad truth is Biden only beat Trump because of covid and there was no pandemic this year. Biden was always a terrible candidate and it took a disease that killed a million Americans to get him elected, didnt he try like four times before this and never make it past a primary? After all that he decided to slow walk through this yeaes primaries despite critisicm, then drop out after they couldn't be ran again. Biden has A LOT of blame for this election.
There you go showing data that refutes popular position. Harris lost because people didn't vote for her, not that people did vote for the orange man.