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Metaphor: ReFantazio's success is further proof that politics are good in videogames, actually—no matter what reactionaries tell you (www.pcgamer.com)

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[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

No matter how many times I reread this comment, I don't see how this reasoning would convince anyone - including yourself - of its position. The point about translation, for instance, not only feels like a non-sequitor but ignores the wealth of subjectivity that inherently goes into translating text to other languages.

I'm not trying to reject you just out of spite; I genuinely don't think internet arguments like this are ever "winnable" for anyone. If you come up with a better description for what it is you oppose, feel free to mention it, but otherwise, I'd say do some self-reflecting.

[-] vasus@lemmy.world -3 points 2 weeks ago

The point about translation, for instance

I want to touch up on this. The reason I didn't write much about my claim about for Yasuke not being a proper samurai is because it is my understanding that it is the default position and thus doesn't need to be proven by evidence. But if I was asked to provide evidence, I would link the comparison of his translated and untranslated book in this post. Since Thomas Lockley is the main source behind the myth, I think discrediting his book should be enough to also discredit Yasuke's role as a proper samurai.

[-] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

We acknowledge that the game is a work of fiction. Historical fiction, but fiction none-the-less.

If every fifth character is also black, I think there is a point that can be made about verisimilitude and taking liberties; but since we know he really existed and that there has been debate on what he did, having a work of fiction that portrays him as a samurai under Nobunga doesn't seem unreasonable.

To compare, we know that Leonardo Di Vinci didn't hand out guns to people or build functional flying machines - but we know he designed all sorts of stuff ahead of its time, so it kinda fits in a fictional story with him in.

But only one of those seems to draw huge amounts of complaints online... And it's actually the less historically accurate one.