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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Frank@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Edit for clarity: I'm not asking why the Tankie/Anarchist grudge exist. I'm curious about what information sources - mentors, friends, books, TV, cultural osmosis, conveys that information to people. Where do individuals encounter this information and how does it become important to them. It's an anthropology question about a contemporary culture rather than a question about the history of leftism.

I've been thinking about this a bit lately. Newly minted Anarchists have to learn to hate Lenin and Stalin and whoever else they have a grudge against. They have to encounter some materials or teacher who teaches them "Yeah these guys, you have to hate these guys and it has to be super-personal like they kicked your dog. You have to be extremely angry about it and treat anyone who doesn't disavow them as though they're literally going to kill you."

Like there's some process of enculturation there, of being brought in to the culture of anarchism, and there's a process where anarchists learn this thing that all (most?) anarchists know and agree on.

Idk, just anthropology brain anthropologying. Cause like if someone or something didn't teach you this why would you care so much?

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[-] _pi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you want to talk about dishonesty and engaging in good faith and in a comradely way, it's purely dishonest and in bad faith to present an ultimatum to me as if you're the leader of a struggle session. If you're going directly asking me to recuse "false histories" that you clearly do not know yourself and attempting to browbeat me into a position where Bolsheviks could do no wrong you're not really engaging in a comradely way, you are simply being a debate bro.

I have said multiple times I'm not here to debate historical recriminations. I am willing to collaboratively learn from the mistakes of the past, but this discussion is pointless if you think the Bolsheviks were perfect.

[-] Barx@hexbear.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

You seem to be unable to not simply make things up on my behalf. I do, actually, get to decide when something is not worth my time and set my own conditions on reading or replying to what you say.

Since this is 3 times in a row I'm not gonna expect a change. Let me know if you change your mind, but otherwise I won't be replying.

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