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this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2024
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Getting some seriously bad vibes from this whole thing. It’s like they’ve found some way to inoculate people against even the barest sort of solidarity- I fear the coalition politics that won even the handful of concessions we got like obergefell might be dead. Granted, that’s exactly what i thought last time this happened too.
Someone’s trying to drive wedges, and it’s working. Divide and conquer by playing up (or creating) animus against one another. Clear as day yet people are walking right into it. What changed?
Worsening material conditions + manufactured culture of individuality prime people to turn against each other?
I don't have a lot of spoons today so no long diatribes from me. I'm just wondering what it was about the proletariat in Russia and China that made them easier to organize vs. Elsewhere.
Russians and Chinese aren't settlers. Russia and China aren't settlers colonial projects.
Russia had settlers on Caucasus, and those settlers overwhelmingly sided with Whites.
Is this settler mindset something we get at birth? Or is it passed down by most families? Just wondering how I avoided having complete burgerbrain despite living a middle class life in the heart of the empire...
I have an idea and will probably write an effort post on it later.
Having a moral compass and the courage to address cognitive dissonance probably did it for you.
Whiteoids have the conialism gene baked into their frontal lobes.
Yeah, that was the culmination of over a century’s work and various precursor rebellions by various players. We don’t have that kind of momentum, and at this point i'm starting to suspect americans are useless on a psychological level (myself included) so i'm not sure anyone could get it together enough to make anything effective happen.
There's a thin line between precarity and comfort here. We all have something to lose if we commit fully to a revolutionary project.
Maybe that's the difference? Life sucks but there's always YouTube and cheap (ish) treats
Fascists have for a while now been appropriating leftist talking points and aesthetics, which at best muddies the water, and at worst gives fascists outright control.
Less internet? No idea lol.
I mean those countries did have civil wars, and reactionary proletarians fought in defense of capital. I think the difference is not necessarily that the bonds of solidarity were stronger (at least not before the period of pitched struggle), but rather that those workers who did feel class solidarity also felt they had less to lose and more to gain in overthrowing capitalism.