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[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 126 points 5 days ago

Cool! Key takeaway for me from this is Trump didn't get more popular, Dems just got way less popular. Kind of brings a bit of my hope in humanity back a little

The fact that anyone voted for Trump killed my hope in humanity

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago
[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Even more so in 2024, since we now saw exactly how he would be. He's added 37 felony counts, the whole classified documents debacle, and more to his resume.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Let's not forget the deaths of over a million Americans due to a wholly inadequate pandemic response. But I stand by what I said, I already lost faith in 2016. It was apparent who he is back then and I am beyond disappointed in my fellow Americans.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

It was never about him - well, certainly by 2020 - so much as it was to pwn the libs of "the other side".

Democrats did not listen, once again, while Republicans did listen - each to their respective bases, i.e. Republicans were the better liars.

[-] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

so much as it was to pwn the libs of "the other side".

This sort of attitude did not really exist in the same way before Trump.

[-] ieightpi@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Still kinda sucks that the Dems lost popularity. I wonder if it would have been different if Biden was on ticket.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It isn't hard for me to believe that 1 in 8 people would refuse to vote for someone because their gender or color.

On a side note, I'm getting older and losing touch with new music, but are women's punk rock bands not as popular as I once remember them being or what? The world could use a little more fuck the patriarchy.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Ugh that’s depressing but I think you’re right.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It doesn't help anything but if you consider that our population grew by 6 million during that time and 22% (kids) can't vote. Then say that only 46% of the population votes... Trump should have had right over 2 million more votes this election, aka he lost votes when accounting for population growth.

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago

Somehow Kamala is the patriarchy though?!:-P

Not as much as The Donald, ofc, but Kamala game across as being basically the same as Joe Biden, or at least it looks like that was what she was aiming for.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Not only every single polling data indicates otherwise, but lots of analysis are also identifying Harris' interview on the View, where she stated that "nothing comes to mind" when they asked her what would she have done differently from Biden as one her campaigns biggest blunders.

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Their focus on everything but the economy during the campaign killed them. If they'd announced a major economic stimulus campaign to get folks back to where they were before the pandemic they'd have won. That gaffe on The View pegged Kamala as completely out of touch with what's going on for working class people who are struggling (and have been struggling for quite some fime.)

From what I could tell the campaign platform was "We're not trump, and btw we support women and we ❤️ PoC/LGBTQ+" (which is essentially the same campaign Hillary ran and lost with.)

They didn't brag about how many jobs they created with the infrastructure spending acts and didn't announce any further plans to keep that going. If they did then they certainly failed to fill the air with it. There was no message of change and hope which, let's be honest, after 35+y of leaving the bottom 80% out of the Wall St economy a huge number of people were waiting to hear.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 17 points 5 days ago

I think it would've been significantly worse had he been still running

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

I wonder if it would have been different if Biden was on ticket.

It would have been way, way worse.

[-] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Honestly there's almost no way a sitting president gains popularity but considering his stance on Israel and stuff he sure as hell would lose some. I honestly don't think it would have been better.

Maybe being more policy specific would have helped Kamala. But the Democrats just have so much PR damage they haven't addressed over time, they are not doing themselves any favors. Humility can be an incredible thing but if you're a politician being humble is the hardest thing to fake, so if you're not, you're not gonna try if you're smart enough.

As a leftist (not in the US though) we just gotta take the L and that's that. I'll be waiting for the drop in support for Republicans after the fact and the following damage report from Rumpsteak's presidency. Let's just hope we get a competent cleaning crew to deal with the damage.

Also reminder that I'm on the hindsight 20/20 high horse so it's very easy to criticize, but I genuinely thought Kamala had a chance and it was a good idea so it's not like I make a good oracle lol.

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago

I'm always confused by the need for the Democrats to be more policy specific, when they're the only party that actually shares any policy.
I feel like people aren't saying they're unsure of the specifics of Kamala's policy points, so they're going to instead vote for the guy who rambles incoherently for an hour about evil Mexicans.

[-] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I think this shows a lot of potential Kamala voters chose not to vote, instead of going to the orange Julius. Democrats have to be more specific with policy because leftists demand it. The right (Trumps base) doesn't care.

[-] vin@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 days ago

I'm not deeply into politics but it seems to me that the Democrats have a marketing problem. An analogy about "policy" is getting user feedback on a product and acting on what the user thinks resolves the problem rather than coming up with proper solution design

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