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[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 25 points 14 hours ago

As someone who worked on designing racks in the super computer space about 10 q5vyrs ago I had no clue windows and mac even tried to entered the space

[-] gerdesj@lemmy.ml 28 points 12 hours ago

about 10 q5vyrs ago

Have you been distracted and typed a password/PSK in the wrong field 8)

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago

Lol typing on phone plus bevy. Can't defend it beyond that

[-] superkret@feddit.org 19 points 13 hours ago

There was a time when a bunch of organisations made their own supercomputers by just clustering a lot of regular computers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_X_(supercomputer)

For Windows I couldn't find anything.
If you google "Windows supercomputer", you just get lots of results about Microsoft supercomputers, which of course all run on Linux.

[-] olosta@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago

No there was HPC sku of Windows 2003 and 2008 : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_2003#Windows_Compute_Cluster_Server

Microsoft earnestly tried to enter the space with a deployment system, a job scheduler and an MPI implementation. Licenses were quite cheap and they were pushing hard with free consulting and support, but it did not stick.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

but it did not stick.

Yeah. It was bad. The job of a Supercomputer is to be really fast and really parallel. Windows for Supercomputing was... not.

I honestly thought it might make it, considering the engineering talent that Microsoft had.

But I think time proves that Unix and Linux just had an insurmountable head start. Windows, to the best of my knowledge, never came close to closing the gap.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 6 hours ago

At this point I think it's most telling that even Azure runs on Linux. Microsoft's twin flagship products somehow still only work well when Linux does the heavy lifting and works as the glue between

[-] sep@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Where did you find that azure runs on linux? I have been qurious for a while, but google refuse to tell me anything but the old "a variant of hyper-v" or "linux is 60% of the azure worklad" (not what i asked about!)

[-] Cyber@feddit.uk 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

But, surely Windows is the wrong OS?

Windows is a per-user GUI... supercomputing is all about crunching numbers, isn't it?

I can understand M$ trying to get into this market and I know Windows server can be used to run stuff, but again, you don't need a GUI on each node a supercomputer they'd be better off with DOS...?

[-] Badabinski@kbin.earth 5 points 8 hours ago

I could see the NT kernel being okay in isolation, but the rest of Windows coming along for the ride puts the kibosh on that idea.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

But, surely Windows is the wrong OS?

Oh yes! To be clear - trying to put any version of Windows on a super-computer is every bit as insane as you might imagine. By what I heard in the rumor mill, it went every bit as badly as anyone might have guessed.

But I like to root for an underdog, and it was neat to hear about Microsoft engineers trying to take the Windows kernel somewhere it had no rational excuse to run, perhaps by sheer force of will or hard work.

[-] Z3k3@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Yeh it was system x I worked on out default was redhat. I forget the other options but win and mac sure as shut wasn't on the list

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