I read somewhere, might've been graeber, that the fundamental ideas of States like the US have kiiind of a violence/justification problem

That they were born out of a violent revolution, but now that they've won they must declare all other revolutions against them invalid and bad, they must build this apparatus of violence etc etc. That their rule effectively boils down to the right of the stronger, cohered by a bunch of pretty lies about how its not that, led by a bunch of kleptocrats.

And here's the part I'm moderately confident I didn't read somewhere; it comes from their hollowness. The fact that their revolutions didn't have to happen, they were the aggressors, and they dont fundamentally have any ideals; just vapid fucking lies. They stand for nothing they can admit to-literally just usurping the old regime on an occulted version of the same power structure.

Fascists do have ideals, even if it just boils down to 'exterminate' and a fundamental inability to acknowledge another party in communication. So their violence feels a lot more legitimate, because there is actually something behind it, even if that something is gross, and there's a built in solipsistic defense against criticism.

This is part of why libs always roll over for fascists, just rabidly crave the belly rubs. The fascists serve the ruling class, at least enough of them, and that's all the libs really care about. Its why the dems would rather throw an election than move left. Their disagreement with fascism is about means, not ends.