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[-] Darohan@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago

Wait, is just using a Valknut considered a hate symbol? I was under the impression that it was a pretty common "I like Vikings/Odin/Paganism" type symbol... Same with Tyr tbh.

[-] Virkkunen@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago

The issue is that the Venn diagram of people interested in vikings/odinism and racists bigots is almost just a circle

[-] Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 week ago

This is hyperbole. A large amount of racists and bigots are into norse stuff? Maybe. Almost all people in the norse stuff are racists and bigots? High doubt, and shouldn't be allowed to be coopted anyway. Loki is one of the few ancient figures with some gender fluid markings as it is.

[-] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

A large amount of racists and bigots are into norse stuff? Maybe. Almost all people in the norse stuff are racists and bigots? High doubt

In my experience, people are, on average, extremely susceptible to this very basic logical fallacy, and truly believe the two sentiments above are equivalent. In other words, believing that "most X are Y" implies "most Y are X".

It's fucking everywhere, pervasive all over the political spectrum too, it's universal. Radical feminists use the fact that most physical assailants are male to malign half of the human population. Racists use statistics about what percentage of violent crime is committed by a race, to draw conclusions about what percentage of that race commits violent crime. Hell, Reefer Madness, a propaganda piece with a well-deserved reputation of being completely full of shit, rests its premise on the exact same fallacy: "practically everyone dying from hard drug use is/was also a weed smoker, so we've concluded weed use leads to hard drug use".

I see it over, and over, and over again, online and in real life. It makes you want to grab someone by the shoulders and shake them while yelling "all oranges are fruits, does that mean all fruits are oranges?!", lol.

That's enough venting for tonight, though, haha.

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