72
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 25 Nov 2024
72 points (92.9% liked)
Technology
34984 readers
260 users here now
This is the official technology community of Lemmy.ml for all news related to creation and use of technology, and to facilitate civil, meaningful discussion around it.
Ask in DM before posting product reviews or ads. All such posts otherwise are subject to removal.
Rules:
1: All Lemmy rules apply
2: Do not post low effort posts
3: NEVER post naziped*gore stuff
4: Always post article URLs or their archived version URLs as sources, NOT screenshots. Help the blind users.
5: personal rants of Big Tech CEOs like Elon Musk are unwelcome (does not include posts about their companies affecting wide range of people)
6: no advertisement posts unless verified as legitimate and non-exploitative/non-consumerist
7: crypto related posts, unless essential, are disallowed
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
Because there is actual evidence for Yankeestan while there is no evidence for this happening in China. Not only that, but per capita incarceration rate in China is far lower than in US overall.
Sure but I think it probably isn't as easy to gather evidence for this in China than it is in the US. That's why I think it's fair to assume the lack of evidence doesn't mean it isn't happening. There's evidence this occurred in collapsed regimes of similar stripes. It's plausible that China isn't an exception. I'm not at all suggesting whether this is widespread or not. I have no clue. It could be extremely rare.
No question about the incarceration rates.
What is this notion that it's harder to collect evidence in China is based on exactly, also what collapsed regimes of similar stripes are you even talking about?
I'm talking about other one-party communist regimes like the ones in the USSR, Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia, East Germany, etc. Yes I'm aware they're they're not identical, including in rates of political prisoners. The one I'm from had relatively few.
Not sure what you're talking about then because after the dissolution of USSR and transition to a liberal capitalist regime both crime and incarceration shot up dramatically.
Originally I replied to this:
It was about political prisoners not general incarcerated population. The aforementioned regimes did hold political prisoners for obvious reasons.
Yes crime skyrocketed after the fall of those regimes.
The US has plenty of political prisoners. Again, it's not clear to me what basis there to suggest that USSR or China ratio being higher.
Yes.
I don't know if it's higher I just think it's not zero.
But the people above you didn't suggest zero, they suggested the officially reported numbers. Earlier it sounded like you were going to make an argument as to why Chinese numbers are more likely to be under-reported than USA numbers.