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Fighting China Over Taiwan Could Cripple U.S. Military
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lol "We don't want to live in a world where the bullies take whatever they want." Says the bullies that has spent over a century taking whatever they want. This feels like them trying to prepare the US people for a massive loss they know is very likely. Then frame it as a "we HAD to do something to fight off big bad see see pee." When if it weren't for US bullshit Taiwan would be closer to a peaceful reunification if not already unified by now.
The US got less than 18 months before the dreaded 2025 estimation of the US loosing any hope of going up against China's military. They are gonna beat those drums harder and harder. I wouldn't be surprised if they were already too late. China has already beat the west to hypersonic missiles. The J35 is an actual function stealth fighter compared to the F35 glorified paperweight. The US Navy heavily reliant on aircraft carriers which are primarily only good for harassing small under developed nations with not way to fight back. Shit they can't even send a sub to threaten them without accidentally crashing it and limping home.
Incredible lack of self awareness there to talk about bullies doing whatever they want. And yeah, as I recall, KMT was in the process of talks with the mainland regarding peaceful reunification in 2014 when US ran the sunflower revolution. The deal was that Taiwan would remain autonomous and have a representative in the mainland government. Basically, it would've been effectively maintaining the status quo, but Taiwan would officially renounce any talks of separatism and join the official government.
Given how things are going for US in Ukraine, I think it's pretty clear that US is in no position to take on China. US can't even keep up with Russia in terms of industrial production, and China absolutely dwarfs Russia in that regard. The main thing Ukraine showed is that it's industry and logistics that matter the most in a peer conflict. US would quickly run through its existing stocks trying to take on China, and then it would be completely fucked. Not only that, but as this article shows, a lot of supply chains Pentagon uses are ultimately dependent on China. In case of an open war, US would be cut off from many critical things it needs which would be catastrophic.
It looks like this is all finally starting to sink in for the people in the military and why we're starting to see articles like this popping up. This article is basically an open admission that if push comes to shove then US will not gamble its military position defending Taiwan. Everybody in Taiwan needs to take note of this, because if they have any delusions that US would provide them with any meaningful aid then they're absolutely delusional.
I imagine that the Ukraine experience will only harden this position within US military and the MIC. It's already becoming clear that US military power is much more limited than people thought, and that will affect US weapons sales. Gonna be hard to peddle stuff like Patriot when it's been shown to be completely ineffectual. US can still say that they haven't used their most advanced weapons in Ukraine, so those are still viable. However, if they went up against China and got their asses handed to them that would definitively expose that the emperor has no clothes to the whole world. Hence, direct war with China or Russia has to be avoided at all costs.
Finally, it's not possible to do what they're doing in Ukraine in Taiwan because it's an island. The west can pump weapons and supplies into Ukraine via the borders, but China will blockade the ports in Taiwan, and the only option to counter that is direct engagement. So, there's no possibility to turn that into a proxy war.
I do think that this underselling the United States a little bit, if Amerikkka does decide to go directly to war with China it will actually mobilize its economy, which would help quite a bit. Of course, China would also probably mobilize its economy so I doubt the final outcome would be any different
They'd basically have to, but US will have two big problems there.
First, it's going to be hard to convince the public that US actually has to go to a real war over Taiwan. When push comes to shove, people in US just don't actually care about Taiwan that much. It's one thing when US government fucks around the globe and there's no perceptible change at home, it's quite another to say that US has to go on a war footing because US has to fight over some small island most people in US couldn't find on a map. I really can't see that being possible politically, especially in the face of the Ukrainian debacle and a looming recession.
Second, US no longer has end to end domestic supply chains that it controls. Thanks to wonders of globalization, China has become a central piece to many supply chains US economy depends on including military production. This article was recently talking about the scale of the problem for US. In case of an open conflict, US would be immediately cut off from this and it would be an economic disaster. And of course, it's pretty clear that US has no hope of keeping up with China in terms of actual military production either.
So, any fantasies US politicians might entertain about having a war with China are completely divorced from reality. While this kind of idiotic move might've been possible before Ukraine, I expect it's going to be a a non starter now.
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