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Wayland and audio is fixed, but only on the canary branch for the moment, this isnt lazy either, they changed the whole screenshare flow to suit linux's permission prompts

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[-] tiramichu@lemm.ee 117 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I was almost convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it's been broken so long. Like, years long.

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn't have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken. With steam working so well on Linux now, broken discord streaming without actual working audio share was one of the last things that posed a hurdle for gamers ditching Windows.

(In the meantime, thank you Vesktop for your service <3)

[-] kuneho@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

You give them too much credit. It's just shitty, that's it.

Discord is pretty much broken on all platform. It always was. There's just no real alternative unfortunately.

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago

"Don't attribute to malice what is explained by incompetence"

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago
[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

There is an alternative people have used before discord came, it is called teamspeak. Is still around as well, but works more like a federated system since everyone has to set up and host their own server for people to use.

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 45 minutes ago

Teamspeak is no alternative to discord. Sorry. Also its not even open source, is it?

[-] kuneho@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm all for it tho I have no idea how to grab the folk's attention

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 40 minutes ago

We would have to sit down and actually think what an opensource solution can achieve and how it gets traction. Also from the get go it should be clear that there will be no feature parity between it and discord. If it was me, I would cut out the whole chatroom functionality, leave private messaging in, use threaded conversations as a standard and but a decent videocall system on top. But this would be my version of it, other people have other needs.

For the video call system you would not have to reinvent the wheel, use something existing like Jitsi (?) or alternatives. Then you would

Maybe the best bet is to look at matrix and wrench out the chatroom focus and replace it with threads?

[-] deadcream@sopuli.xyz 19 points 8 hours ago

It was broken so long I honestly wouldn’t have been surprised if news surfaced that Discord was taking back-handers from Microsoft under the table to keep it broken.

Tech companies are fully capable of being lazy for free. Fixing this takes dev time from other work that brings Discord money so doing this costs them, especially considering that Linux userbase must be rather tiny. 99% of software companies don't give a shit about making quality product and will always try their hardest to do as little work as possible while making as much money as possible. If fixing a bug will cost them more than potential profits from making it work then they won't fix it.

[-] tiramichu@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago

You're right of course, it's definitely down to simple lack of incentive, rather than some kind of conspiracy. But the conspiracy was a fun shower thought! :)

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 53 points 12 hours ago

I saw something from a discord dev (can't find it, so grain of salt) about how there was interest recently to do it, but they'd have to work on other stuff that affected everyone first, and they'd probably get it done by q4 2024, guess they were right.

I think before then the whole linux graphics and audio space hadn't really stabilized enough for them to be interested.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 12 hours ago

convinced they were keeping this broken on purpose, it's been broken so long. Like, years long.

Heh. There's a ticket with Splunk. It's a simple request: do the 30 sec of work to let us install your software rpm from a proper yum repo.

They can't figure out how.

They won't ask.

It's 12 years old now.

The ticket for them to do a trivial exercise with tools twice as old, is now a tween. It can ride the bus on its own. I think it can get a Facebook account. Maybe.

We should get one for it.

[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 9 hours ago

It was the same with Zoom but AFAIK they're finally working on it now.

[-] finder@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

The Zoom flatpak works fine. Haven't tried native.

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 hours ago

who in their sane mind uses zoom on their private device. holy molly

[-] tehfishman@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Is there really? Long time splunk admin, I would love to see this

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 8 points 11 hours ago

It was 100% because the existing Electron version they were using was ancient, a giant pain in the ass to update, and represents exactly zero revenue for them so they hadn't bothered putting anyone on fixing it. Every tech company has the ticking time bomb in the corner like that.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 5 points 12 hours ago

Screen sharing infrastructure (for Wayland) in Linux was still in development recently. Maybe they just wanted to be able to use newer APIs?

[-] Zamundaaa@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago

The screen casting portal is 6 years old. 6 years is not recent...

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