wtf is retrograde anyway.

Have you ever been on a bike (usual analogy is a car, but fuck that) traveling along at a pretty good clip, and you come upon another bike ahead of you that's moving in the same direction as you but going slower?

They look like they're moving forward against the background scenery at first, no surprise there. But as you're passing them, they look like they're moving backwards against the background hills. Then once you're a ways ahead of them, they look like they're moving forward normally again. Ever notice that? If not, try it sometime. The other bike was never actually moving backwards, but since they are going forward more slowly than you, relative to the background, it does look briefly like they are going backward.

Same thing happens with slower planets further from the sun than we are - as earth passes them, it looks for a period like they're going backwards against the background stars from our perspective. That is retrograde motion. The planets don't actually stop in their orbits, move backward for a bit, stop again and then move forward, but it looks like they do because of our relative motion around the sun.

Now, if you're from a time before it was well known that Earth is in orbit around the sun same as those other planets (and not the center of the solar system and universe), then it would mean those planets were moving backwards. And if you also think of the sky as literally the heavens which determine the fate of people on Earth, this backward motion is going to seem extremely significant (even if it's in reality basically just an optical illusion).

but how can they literally not see this?! Its been repeated over and over in history! How many times do they have to be wrong? How many times do they find out they were deceived on every level?! They know their politicians lie, at least they say they do, but they never once question them! Its so fucking tiring to watch it happen every single fucking time! They never learn! Ever!

It's because they know, if even on an instinctual level, that their material interests are fundamentally aligned with the empire. Every time they're lied to, they can easily say "it's different this time" simply because it broadly serves them better to believe those lies.

Most of the propaganda isn't there to "trick" or "fool" them into believing the lie, it's there to provide them with the justification, the excuse that they long for, that they need in order to maintain their view of themselves as good and right and smart. It's not that they're incapable of learning, it's that they have no material incentive to learn and plenty of incentive not to, since doing so would challenge their identity, their firmly-held beliefs that all their privilege and treats are earned and that they have a legitimate and moral right to them. Which of course they don't. Of course they're going to believe the lies over and over and over.

It's absolutely true that as westerners it would be supremely arrogant to think we know better than the Palestinians about what's going on. Still, I think it's fair and justified to be worried about the well-being of the Palestinian people as this continues to develop and the extreme reaction and terror that Isn'treal is capable of. Regardless: Full and uncritical support to Palestine and their resistance to the genocidal ethnostate.

1. Mostly it was about fooling you into thinking that, as a worker, you have even an iota of power within that company.

2. You: "The owners deserve all the value that results from owning the company and not the workers because the owners own the company, duh." Reread what you said and note the ridiculous circular logic.

3. The company would continue to function perfectly fine without the owner(s), yet would immediately cease to function or even exist without the workers. The only role the owner plays in the company (that the workers operate), is to siphon the value away from the workers who made it and unto themselves.

Totally worth it imo.

Go get a mic and slap a on it and hold it up while you shoot some video with people going into the summit building over your shoulder.

Personally, I would look forward to hearing 72T trying to pronounce your name. "Thanks aaaaaaadjsf 'ayyyyy... aid-jeff ssfuh?' that was illuminating. There you have it, folks. In other news, stay tuned, because in our top story tonight..."

You could go be the on-the-ground correspondent for Channel Hexbear's NewsMega. Tell us what's happening with live updates and each time close with "back to you, SeventyTwoTrillion."

Im not liberal, im a socialist.

A "socialist" who believes capitalist propaganda and refers to the largest and most successful actually existing socialist state's functionality as "antics"? Sounds pretty liberal to me.

And im not American either :)

The person you're replying to wasn't suggesting that you were. He signs all his comments with that phrase at the end, and strangely enough, it's almost always fitting.

Anyway, yes, this instance does tend to try to talk about China accurately, and it does so in the face of overwhelming torrents of western propaganda cultivated by the capitalist's/imperialist's demonization of the state that poses the largest contemporary threat to their hegemony.

I just edited my comment to fix my use of "they/their" into "he/him" as per the other commenter's pronouns. I mention this specifically because you said in another comment for us to "stop being against lgbtq." This instance is the most lgbtq-positive space I've ever encountered on the internet. We frequently get hated on by transphobes because we include pronouns next to usernames. We were, and to my knowledge still are, the only instance to do so.

I'm curious what aspects of that comment you thought were fantastical. Will you elaborate and be specific?

There is no question that 72T is a major reason why the news mega is such an informative and entertaining resource, and the amount of work, care, and overall amazing posting power he puts into it can't be overstated. That said, there are a number of comrades here who consistently post not just important news and analysis but also hilarious commentary and this place would not be what it is without them, either. Don't sell them short! It's community effort that keeps it from collapsing.

Surprise surprise, libs arrogantly assuming they're the default and pearl-clutching about being "brigaded" because they got exposed to ideas that don't fit the narrative they've swallowed, exactly the way they always do. Vapid, self-centered actors through and through.

OP is slightly mistaken, this post was made by a lemmy.world user. This is why lemmy.world preemptively defederated from us. We can't on it or comment from hexbear. They knew we would challenge their bullshit and for all their defense of freeze peach, they can only hold their ideological ground when they have a large majority and those rare contrary voices can be quickly drowned out.