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For those interested on the question of age verification and GNU/Linux: be aware that Systemd v261-rc1 was recently released. It now implements an optional birth date field in the JSON user database (see second item under "Other changes").

The implementation of this field was prompted by age-verification or -attestation laws.

(Age-verification status of Open Source Operating Systems.)

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[-] excel@lemming.megumin.org 64 points 4 days ago

Yes, right next to the fields for your full name and address, all of which are optional. It’s a total nothingburger.

[-] TheMadBeagle@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago

Did you ignore the comment in the github where it, and I quote "Stores the user's birth date for age verification, as required by recent laws in California (AB-1043), Colorado (SB26-051), Brazil (Lei 15.211/2025), etc.". Yes it is optional NOW, but this is in preparation of laws that make it legally Mandatory. Don't down play this.

[-] excel@lemming.megumin.org 4 points 3 days ago

Miss me with this "slippery slope" BS.
Having a standardized place to store the DOB is a good thing and it should have been there even before these laws.
And if some users want to comply with those laws, then they should have a way to do it.
If anybody actually tries to make this a hard requirement (which isn't going to happen), then you can bitch about it at that time.

[-] froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago

This. If someone would force it, people make a fork without that bullshit

[-] Mordikan@kbin.earth 4 points 2 days ago

California's AB-1043 already passed, so we get to bitch about it now. Thanks for your support.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Oh so you are now forced to fill in the field?

[-] Mordikan@kbin.earth 0 points 2 days ago

In California Jan 1st 2027, effectively yes. Please read AB-1043. All of this information is present there. It functionally forces any systemd‑based OS to populate it in order to comply with the law’s mandatory age‑collection requirements. It's literally in the bill. Next time, just fucking read it, damn. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1043

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[-] xohshoo@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Just like the room number when using the adduser command

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[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Could someone explain to me why numerous Linux development groups are jumping on board with this bullshit? This is I think the third such post I've read that a distro or however you call it, is integrating the age check. Since when does the Linux community get on board with Big Brother????

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 days ago

A surprising amount of people in the open source community lean alt-right including the lead dev of systemd, some of FUTO, and others like hyprland, etc. Others like the actual dev that committed the age field code to systemd state they are apolitical but in reality are actually enabling those that want to do harm.

[-] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

This attack is no limited to "alt-right", it is across the political spectrum. Ex. there are plenty of lefty states implementing these laws.

Authoritarian is still authoritarianism whether it's from left or right.

(I'd also argue that software development is generally filled with leftists, I think the recent rise of prominent right-leaning developers is in reponse to many projects forgoing politically neutrality)

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

That's fair. Authoritarianism across the board is inherently anti-free and will give rise to enshittified or unsecure software given enough time. We're not only dealing with bigots that can't stand living on the same planet as others they don't understand, but also those that want strict authority and enforcement.

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago

There's a breed of incel who benefits from power tripping in community projects. Think reddit mods.

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[-] M33@piefed.world 31 points 4 days ago

It’s sad because at some point, when mainstream browsers will actually rely on systemd for that, website will block you.

Given enough time and ressources, that age control will hit hard like DRM.

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[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It seems system ld is also enshittifying flatpaks. Those damned Gnome devs man, I can't.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago
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[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 days ago

This is the end. Everyone switch to FreeBSD.

[-] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

Been there. It sucked.

[-] racoon@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 days ago

It is the year of FreeBSD on both the desktop and the server

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[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Where is the patch to roll this back? I hope i can one day soon sudo apt install not-today-nazis

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