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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

I hope I'm not exposing myself to some kind of retailation, but here it goes.

It has been brought to my attention in a totally unrelated discussion that moderator(s) of !stable_diffusion_witches@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !stable_diffusion_mycology@lemmy.dbzer0.com hosted here on db0 seemingly randomly ban users (including me) which had never ever even interacted with the community as being "Anti-AI Trolls", "Neoliberals" or other names. Some other users are banned for "Vote Manipulation" (what does that even mean?! you still addicted to reddit's karma or what?).

While I totally don't mind these communities, content served by them and their rules as stated in the sidebar, I somehow found myself caring for what lemmy.dbzer0.com represents in the fediverse. I am of strong stance that such behaviour like described above (proactively banning random users) stands in a potential violation of The Golden Rules which are the foundation of this instance. This starts to be noticeable and brings negative perception of our instance.

I claim that such behaviour is in contradiction of rules calling for cooperative participation in the community by creating "closed garden" of only the most trusted users by the moderation where noone else can participate. The rules under which someone is banned are not clear, bans are not directly connected to any particular user comment and/or action.

I call for the community to voice their oppinion about this matter and if the community agrees with my objection to such behaviour as described above, I call for a proper action to be taken to enforce the community standards.

Thank you.

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Being banned from a community full of a bunch of kids pretending to be artists where all they do is salivate all over each other’s cringe “artwork”? Yeah. That is a gift.

Typing a coherent sentence into a prompt doesn’t make you an artist- I guess common sense just isn’t any more.

tbh, I like ai, I hate ai art, it just takes work away from actual artists who put in time, heart and soul into their craft, instead of just type a sentence into chatgpt, I had both those comms blocked anyway so being banned from them would make absolutely no difference

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

ah ok I thought you just wanted to post about being moderated in way you didn't like. For a larger discussion about what kind of moderation policies we tolerate, this kind of post belongs in !div0_governance@lemmy.dbzer0.com . I would suggest you post it there instead and make sure you add the string governance type: sense check in the end

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago

Okay so it wasn't just me. Not sure what triggered it. I'm not anti-AI, I'm just worried about the ethical and environmental aspects. If that makes me an anti-AI troll then block me from the whole instance.

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 21 points 1 week ago

God, this thread is awful. People will really find any excuse to be transphobic/shitty in general. I might be one of these 'anti-AI trolls' (which I'll admit is half right), but this reaction is completely out of proportion and in no way acceptable. I'm sorry Mystic and the dbzero team are having to deal with this (again).

[-] MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago

I start to regret that I opened my mouth

[-] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 week ago

I agree that random blocking sours the reputation.

The only thought I can conjure is perhaps a mod got pissed about a post and banned everyone from a thread, including commentators defending our even just neutrally discussing AI.

I think more detail, perhaps direct comment from the mod(s) involved, is warranted.

As to "vote manipulation", brigading or mass vote blasts are against the rules but harder to pass muster on a bit.

Again, the mod should have a chance to respond for sure.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 11 points 1 week ago

The mod in question is apparently convinced that Lemmy is full of "anti-AI trolls" who are planning to brigade their communities with mass downvotes, accuse them of pedophilia, send death threats, and all kinds of stuff.

“From the moment I started the [redacted] community here people have been brigading it trying to suppress it, and had I not had the sense to ban the droves of anti-AI trolls who come to downvote it into oblivion. They probably would be continuing to do so in insanely large volume. A lot of the users who come to downvote do so with empty no content accounts, but a lot are also trolls from the !fuck_AI@lemmy.world community. I’ve also received a fair amount of harassment including threats and bad faith accusations from it like people saying I’m a pedophile or saying I’m pretending to be nonbinary over the fact that I like and use genAI. Really awful behavior that has no place on this instance of this community.”

-https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43560521

And so, the only solution is to cast about for random people all over the Lemmyverse (including me, well known hater of all things AI) and send out bans like stray beads of spittle flying from a drunk politician's mouth. Obviously. It's the only way to keep us safe.

I feel like it's a toss-up whether this person is stirring drama on purpose (trying to create "pro-AI" and "anti-AI" camps and instigate disagreements between them), or whether they've just got some screws loose and like to paint themselves as the victim of a vast conspiracy and also enjoy using the "ban" button that comes with their UI. IDK. It's not really that big a deal, honestly, I feel like it could be solved in a day or so with some frank conversations and openness on all sides. I'm not sure why so little energy is going towards that, and why so much energy is going towards deciding which specific strictures we're going to have the software enforce on all of us going forward and who the enemy needs to be.

Something is weird about it, that's all I can really say.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

spoiler

And for reference, here's someone being a transphobe to zir because the internet just can't help it to not spam hate to people online.

Edit: another account was just made to harass Mystic: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/MoarCuntsPlz@sh.itjust.works

[-] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 12 points 1 week ago

That has literally nothing at all to do with banning me. We might as well talk about banning you, because that user said that. That's as much relationship that comment has to the subject of OP's post.

(I also think it's sort of convenient that a new user popped up and started making cartoonishly harassing comments about the person we're talking about, thus propping up the "mods need the ability to ban totally random people, because look at this person he's so bad look at what a terrible thing he did, I 100% guarantee you that the mod banning random people is always the victim and never the harasser no matter what they ever do" narrative.)

I reported that comment, as I'm sure some other people did. You do understand that has literally nothing at all to do with banning other users who haven't done anything that that person did?

Am I the weird one in this conversation? I'm having this sort of Alice in Wonderland feeling here.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well I haven't had my coffee this morning, so maybe I'm being weird.

But I wanted to at least document that in this very thread there's people harassing zir, because zir exists online.

I don't think it's odd to think there's users targeting harassment them, when examples pop up without being asked.

Edit: An account was made about 15 minutes ago to harass Mystic: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/u/MoarCuntsPlz@sh.itjust.works

[-] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 12 points 1 week ago

I don't think it's odd to think there's users targeting harassment them, when examples pop up without being asked.

You know what? Let's try some Socratic teaching.

The people harassing the mod should be:

  1. Banned
  2. Not banned

The people not harassing the mod or doing anything wrong should be:

  1. Banned
  2. Not banned

I feel like this should be an easy test, but let's see what you come up with.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 5 points 6 days ago

I'm a mod in a community that some hate, we automatically ban anyone who visits (or trips over it on the front page) and only down votes too many things

Some of them have felt hard done by, but they don't want to be unbanned, they really don't want to see our content

I wonder if the op was really just db0 being just a little more trigger happy. The "nothing" might have been down voting something that quickly attracted tens of down votes in quick succession, causing them to be mistaken for brigading. Votes cluster in time.

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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The mod in question is apparently convinced that Lemmy is full of “anti-AI trolls” who are planning to brigade their communities with mass downvotes, accuse them of pedophilia, send death threats, and all kinds of stuff.

Well yeah, there are bots made in zir username that were horrid and mocking zir because zir mods a space on the internet. Calling zir a pig, misgendering, saying pigs are tasty, etc.

What would you call that if not harassing? Our admins can confirm this.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 21 points 1 week ago

I don't see how banning random third party people is going to be a solution to that. Actually, I would expect it to make things worse, since anyone who wanted to make one of those bots can still do all of that exactly as much or as little as they could before (and obviously be banned for it exactly as they would be able to before), but also she's going to get additional people irritated at her because she's now lashing out at uninvolved parties.

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[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

I know this happened to me too. I think there are a lot of very fragile people who really like this technology.

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[-] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A talented person who makes their money fairly wont be selfish because they know they can always make more. A person who lies cheats and steals for money will be selfish because they are insecure in their talents.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Hello, sorry to bother you. I would like to say that this doesn't really apply all that well in real life because people who make their money fairly can't afford to be selfless as current society is rigged in such a way that it extracts wealth well beyond the means of replenishment.
And quite a few talented individuals are lost daily due to means of using their talents being blocked at every step. Life isn't simple enough to enrich the talented as needed.

Nice words though.

[-] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, the corporations want us stuck in a race against ourselves, but if we never look for a solution, we will never find one

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago
[-] MigratingApe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Yes, it looks similar. I wonder what is really going on here...

[-] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 9 points 1 week ago
  1. Wanting to stir up inter-instance drama on purpose for whatever inscrutable reasons (bringing "neoliberal" into it seems guaranteed to get people excited)
  2. Mental illness / need for attention, see also possibility 1

I'm sure that this has nothing to do with possibility 3, a good-faith effort to run an orderly community. Honestly, I just think Lemmy's model of little fiefdoms where particular people have unlimited power to wield over all the plebs in their little domain is unhealthy for a few different reasons, this type of thing being one of them.

I have no particular place at the table to weigh in on the db0 governance issue. I'm not sure how big a deal it is one way or another (like I said in the other thread people just do weird stuff sometimes). For me I probably would have a chat with the mod and see what their thinking is here, maybe encourage them not to do this anymore because of the extremely low productiveness vs. drama ratio involved with actions like this.

That's my 2c for what it is worth.

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[-] remon@ani.social 9 points 1 week ago

Yup, some of these AI community mods are incredibly fragile.

[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Yeah because the anti AI mods have their shit together 🙄

Two people can suck. But they can each suck in their own special way.

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[-] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

Ban me next! I am an anti AI troll!

Fuck AI, it sucks and will always suck! The basic idea that you can make a huge database of words in """""context""""" and make that intelligent is WRONG! That's not how brains work and not how intelligence works, or can work.

same here ban me pls

[-] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Ban me next! I am an anti AI troll!

Banned for not saying please 😠

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[-] UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Holy shit, this thread. What the fuck is happening to Lemmy?! Shit is getting crazy. Now we even have extremist anti-AI people. Are they just looking for shit to be angry and extreme about?! What shit are they gonna be mad about, tomorrow?

I love AI. I get that some people don't, but some of them are starting to become the fuckin Unabomber about it. lol

AI has made my life better and way more fun.

Stay mad, Luddites.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I laughed when I noticed they cross-banned me for being anti-AI because it was long after I had blocked the subs specifically because they are for posting generative AI drivel. As soon as any of them show up on my feed, I block them. Stable_diffusion, perchance, anything specifically appended with "AI..."

Hey, dipshit mod: it's not trolling if we're not coming into your place and talking shit about your shit.

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