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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/post/237378

Hello World!

We've recently added PieFed.World to the Fedihosting Foundation portfolio.

PieFed.World is still in its early stages, and we still need to port some of our automations we already have in place on Lemmy.World. This includes functionality to inform people about moderation actions taken against them, as well as some other moderation tooling. Administration is currently done by the same team responsible for Lemmy.World, and the same rules that apply to Lemmy.World also apply to PieFed.World.

What is PieFed?

PieFed is a Fediverse/Threadiverse platform similar to Lemmy or Mbin/kbin. You can find a description and feature comparison with Lemmy on their website.

While PieFed has a range of features currently not present in Lemmy, it also is a a lot younger and isn't quite as robust as Lemmy currently is. There are still many bugs and missing features that you will likely run across compared to Lemmy, which will take time to be addressed. PieFed has fairly active development and is seeing a lot of issues addressed fairly quickly, which is especially important recently, as the number of active PieFed instances and PieFed users increased significantly with a range of Lemmy instances opening up PieFed instances as well. PieFed currently does not have proper "stable" releases and no test suite, so it's not unlikely for things to break from time to time. Although 1.0.0 has already been released a while back, there are still too many issues addressed in more recent commits to stay on that version.

As PieFed is part of the same federated network as Lemmy and Mbin, all PieFed communities can be accessed from Lemmy and Mbin, as well as other Fediverse platforms. Likewise, PieFed can access communities from Lemmy, Mbin and other Fediverse platforms. Whether you use a PieFed instance, a Lemmy instance, or an Mbin instance, it does not matter what type of instance the community is on. The software affects your own user experience, but the content is available regardless.

Creation of communities

Creation of communities will be limited to admins for the first week of the public launch. We will reserve this time to allow community moderators of established communities to claim the name on PieFed.World before we open community creation to the public. We will limit this to communities with the same name and at least 2k monthly active users. In case of multiple qualifying communities with the same name on different instances expressing interest, Lemmy.World communities will be given preference, afterwards the number of monthly active users. Please reach out if you'd like to discuss an exception. Requests can be posted in !support@piefed.world. After the first week, community creation will be available to anyone.

Migration of communities

PieFed has a feature to migrate communities to a local instance. We will not be offering PieFed's community migration feature initially.

We still need to research the details of how this works and the impacts this has on federation before we will make a decision on whether will support this in the future. If requested, we may reserve some names for potential future community migrations until we have made a decision to allow community migrations.

This does not prevent you from moving communities in the classic way, by opening up a new community and posting in the old community that people should move over.

Private voting

We had previously disabled private voting for PieFed.World before opening the instance to the public, as the original implementation has a range of drawbacks when it comes to federation, and our team overwhelmingly believed that the individual benefits of private voting did not outweigh the impact this has on the Fediverse beyond the user's instance. Additionally, due to the implementation of that feature, it was also trivial to identify the original voter, which significantly limited the promises of this bringing actual voting privacy.

Since then, the implementation of private voting has been changed to provide the option of federating or not federating votes. While this is more likely to result in vote differences across instances, it does not feed bad information to other instances, which could make it a lot harder for other instances to identify manipulation.

Non-federated voting is available for all PieFed.World users.

Topics

Topics are a kind of "starter packs" or collections grouping multiple communities that people can follow, curated by the admin team. We don't have a clear vision for the structure of these yet.

You can see an example structure on piefed.social.

Feel free to let us know your thoughts on this.

Feeds

PieFed supports feeds, which are user-created groups of communities, similar to topics. These are currently in a global namespace and all users can create public feeds in the same shared namespace.

Reputation and vote weight

PieFed has options for admins to treat certain types of content differently for "reputation" calculation, as well as options for weighing votes of specific instances differently compared to others. We currently have all options for treating certain content, communities or instances differently disabled.

How does PieFed compare to Lemmy?

PieFed has various features not present in Lemmy, check out their website!

There is also various functionality that Lemmy has, which you may be missing currently with PieFed for now:

Limited API support

In Lemmy, the default web interface relies entirely on the Lemmy API. This has the major benefit of all functionality available in the default web interface also being available to all third party clients. PieFed currently uses separate code paths and implementations for the default web interface and its API. To make it possible to access functionality in third party apps, dedicated API endpoints have to be created, even if this functionality is already available in the default web interface. This also includes alternative web-based UIs.

Multiple developers of alternative UIs and mobile clients are already working on PieFed support, some already released experimental versions.

Limited availability of Markdown previews

Markdown previews are currently only available in posts. There are many other places that accept markdown, but you can't preview the rendered comment before submitting it. This is tracked in #532.

Image uploads only on post creation

Images can't be uploaded to comments currently. You'll have to host them externally for now. This is tracked in #768.

Autocompletion of users/communities

Usernames and communities can't be autocompleted when typing their names currently. This is tracked in #799.

Limited availability of modlog

Modlog is currently very limited. While there is an instance modlog, there are currently no filters available, so it's not possible for users to see actions taken against a specific user or within a specific community. Community modlog exists, but it is currently only available to community moderators and admins. Filtering modlog is tracked in #846.

Moderator hierarchy

Lemmy has a moderator hierarchy based on the time a moderator was appointed, relative to other moderators in the community. This allows moderators to add other moderators, but they can only remove moderators that were added later than they were. There are a few other actions that check moderator hierarchy as well, including deletion only being possible by the top mod. In PieFed, communities have one or more owners, who can add and remove moderators, while all other moderators are currently on equal level. Community owners currently cannot be changed without editing this directly in the database, if you'd like to change owners in your community please reach out in !support@piefed.world.

Donations

Similar to Lemmy, PieFed development is supported by donations. You can donate to PieFed development through Patreon.

Additionally, we would appreciate donations towards the Fedihosting Foundation, the non-profit organization operating PieFed.World, Lemmy.World, and a range of other Fediverse platforms.

Problems and questions

Please report any issues and questions about PieFed.World in !support@piefed.world.

For topics about the software PieFed, please visit !piefed_meta@piefed.social.

Bugs can be reported on Codeberg.

TLDR: New platform with similar functionality available, Lemmy.World will continue to exist.

edit: reordered sections and minor wording changes

edit 2: updated community owner information

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submitted 1 week ago by nutomic@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

join-lemmy.org regularly crawls all active Lemmy instances to keep the instance list updated. Additionally it also collects data from all Lemmy communities. The data is now publicly available in the following git repository:

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-statistics

Check the readme for details about the available data. Interestingly the numbers are quite different from other websites:

join-lemmy.org fediverse.observer fedidb.com
Monthly Active Users 42.170 36.336 50.063
Instances 512 376 446

Here are some ideas what to do with the data:

  • Recreate the Lemmymap, graphically showing the connections or defederations between instances.
  • Render graphs, which could be added directly to join-lemmy.org (#532).
  • Investigate what is causing the different numbers shown above.
  • Run various types of analysis, like this one done by @malsadev.
  • Build a tool to help users discover interesting and relevant communities.
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The Fedimap.de is a map of the Fediverse users. Everyone can mark or unmark themselves.

Previously known as "Fedikarte", the project recently got brought back to life under the new name Fedimap. The german community has already been very active adding themselves to the map. Maybe we can get more people from the wider Fediverse to add themselves.

Here's how you add yourself from Lemmy/PieFed:

  • Grab your coordinates by clicking on a location on fedimap
  • Don't use your exact location obviously
  • Send a private message to @fedimap@social.linux.pizza with your coordinates like this:
  • @fedimap !in 54.88889467,23.93083513

Done!

The project's code is available on codeberg.

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by CascadiaRo@lemmy.zip to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

At the beginning of last month, a crosspost to a lemm.ee community showed up in my feed - and it would seem that it showed up in mine alone.

I commented, but nobody else did - and nobody seems to have upvoted or downvoted the post either.

IIRC lemm.ee’s closure is older than this account.

If anyone has any insight, I’m a bit curious to know how and why this could have happened.

Otherwise, behold and regale this weird thing that happened for me!

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by ptz@dubvee.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Edit: Okay, so I tried to reproduce this while I was putting together a bug report, and it's no longer doing it when I was following my "steps to reproduce". I re-added .ml to my domain filter list, and can still resolve posts to c/Books which has a link to .ml in its description. So maybe it was just a glitch? I'm gonna play around with it and see before submitting it as a bug. But I do know before I removed .ml from that list yesterday, it refused to because of the link in the description (none of the test posts hit on that domain) and consistently said Domain is blocked. :sigh:

Edit 2: Ok, now it's behaving as described. There must be some lag/delay between adding a domain to the filter list and it applying to inbound federation. Submitting a bug.

Edit 3: Bug 6320


I was one of the trailblazers who defeded from .ml and once the domain filtering feature was added, I added lemmy [dot] ml to my domain blocks in the admin panel. Reason being, I don't want .ml content including crossposts and re-posted images.

I thought that was working great until I noticed today that I hadn't gotten any posts to !books@lemmy.world for several months. Even trying to manually resolve a post pulled from there directly, it wouldn't load. Finally checked the server logs, and there was a Domain is blocked event right after the logged call to ResolveObject. Of course the logs didn't say what domain.

Long story short, after scouring the randomly-selected test post to see if there was some kind of false positive, I finally realize there's a "Related Community" link to a community on .ml in c/Books's community description and that was what it was hitting on. Any post coming in to c/Books was being rejected because the community description linked to something in my site's URL filters.

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by mrdown@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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And i repost the same post so lemmy user can see us. Sorry for the duplicate. 😅

Hi everybody,

I hope you are well. I’m quite busy with my course, so i’m not there a lot. Sorry and thank you for animating this community and being kind. You are awesome. :)

During this week-end, i planned to advance french translation and the Piefed wiki. We decided a meeting with french translators so we can share our ideas and decide together about the most accurate translation.

And i thought why not inviting you. Yes, you ☺️

I purpose you a hackathon this week-end. Yeah, this idea just popped up in my mind. 😁

There is plenty things to do : documentation, translation…and not only PieFed (lemmy, mbin, nodeBB, loops, iceshrimp…)

We can coordinate our effort to make the fediverse a quite good place. If you want to do a hackathon for another software, i suggest to create a separate post and share its link in comment (we also need a way to centralize this event for better coordination). ☺️

Here is a draft of this idea. Nothing new but i want to setup a set of rules so we don’t waste our energy and time. :)

  • hackathon start the week-end, at the beggining of each month (depend of your need)
  • before the hackathon, we create a to-do list : documentation, code development, mobile app, translation, ads, UI, updating wiki, squashing small bug…everything missing.
  • in comment section, we create small team (code, wiki, communication…) and tell users : when ? How many people ? Topics ? And then, you self-organize together.

What do you think ? Would you be interested by those workshops ? Maybe you need more time and already have plan for this week ? We can repport it to March. Got another idea ? :3

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I guess being new here I need to understand some things a bit better. Someone tagged my first post as an ad. I honestly don't understand why, since it stated reasons to move from mainstream social media to more ethical and meaningful platforms. If anyone would like to share advice, that would be more than welcome.

On another note, some of the platforms I found have the "non-US" advantage. Some of them are non-profits, others are user-controlled...

Some platforms are great for browsers, but they have no APP or they need a third party APP.

Any suggestions? Where to move from Instagram? And Facebook? And X? And Linkedin? and Amazon? Spotify? Youtube? Google Drive, Dropbox or Onedrive?

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so, this is a bit of an abstract mathematical post.

I think that a fediverse service consists mostly of three parts: identity provider, data hoster, and feed provider.

The data hoster is the machine that hosts the posts and comments and upvote/downvote stats. The feed provider is the service which gives you a nice, scrollable overview over new content for you. This is today the same system that provides the data, but it could be separated, such as having a custom "search engine" that gives you content, that you use independently of where the data is stored.

The identity provider basically only makes a proof that "you are you" : you give it your login credentials and it gives you a kind of token that authenticates (proves your identity) to other services. like, i'm on discuss.tchncs.de, but i can post to lemmy.world. this is because the discuss.tchncs.de server says to lemmy.world that i indeed have this account on this server. so they prove my identity in a way.

What i argue now is that such an identity providing server is not technically necessary. You could use something like an ~/.ssh/id_rsa file that you generate on your own computer and use that public key to identify yourself on the fediverse. I don't think that this approach has any inherent advantages over how things are being done today, but it could be done that way and that in itself is fascinating.

:D

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

@clawd@lemmings.world is one of the LLM bot accounts created by @mudkip@lemdro.id that @Xylight@lemdro.id (the Photon Lemmy frontend developer) phished and leaked the password for: https://lemmings.world/post/40638800 (archive)

@Xylight@lemdro.id messaging @mudkip@lemdro.id:

@clawd@lemmings.world details:

PMs:

The spam account has now been deleted, including submissions.

update:

@mudkip@lemdro.id has now changed his profile picture, banner and bio to express his hate for AIs after this post, despite having this banner before:

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There was a discussion about this article 2 years ago here and here, but I thought it's such an interesting a novel concept full of potential that it's worth a repost.

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1st Feb is #GlobalSwitchDay (media.piefed.social)

Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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Loops is Now on the App Store (blog.joinloops.org)
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So I am trying to get a blog running on my VPS, and I already managed to use WordPress for that, but I really would like something a bit more basic. I also managed to get writefreely running and was not impressed with that (unlike WP it basically just pushed a single link post into the fediverse and didn't allow any further interactions).
Plume doesn't seem to be developed anymore.
Is there any other app for single-users that allows federation?

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Whats the best alternative in the fediverse to youtube or twitch, what makes it good or not?

What would you like to suggest or ask here?

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Federated Goodread ? (startrek.website)

Is there a federated goodread like program or at least some open-source self hosted one ?

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by SebZuen@leminal.space to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Hey group,

Why is there not a Mastodon client to only utilize the media grid and pack it into an Instagram layout?

When I was exploring Bluesky and its clients a while ago, I actually liked the approach of having one central protocol and then having clients strip different masks over it. The Flashes app, for example, packed the media posts from your regular Microblog-profile into a Instagram-layout, while still keeping all your regular followings.

The federation between Pixelfed instances and Masto instances doesn't seem to be 100% working to my eyes. Likewise, when I look at my Pixelfed account via Masto client, it doesnt show me the pictures in the media grid.

I know this touches the very core of ActivityPub federation, but during the last years I couldn't figure out why fedi-networks never interacted completely.

Please correct me if I got something wrong or you know about obvious alternatives that I haven't stumbled upon yet.

Cheers! Enjoy the sun today!

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Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by biofaust@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Features I can think of:

  • a system for stricter content moderation, especially something that would automatically delete NSFW/NSFL posts,
  • no direct messaging,
  • some kind of tool for moderators to efficiently review content,
  • multi-layered access to an account to allow for parental control,
  • time management tool that would not be based on the client, but with the session duration calculated through interactions.
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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Blaze@piefed.zip to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Edit about the 4chan image blocking, I asked Rimu directly:

I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

-- Original message:

https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/b168820a089ff6e835059f0d806f81b612987a79/app/models.py#L3513

A few people in the other thread assumed that it was required to fork the code to disable those filters. That's not the case, the filters can be configured, and are off by default.

To hide the reputation system, here's a line of CSS that admins can add in the admin area to hide it for every user

https://piefed.social/c/piefed_css/p/1722358/hide-red-triangle-warnings-on-accounts-with-bad-reputation

That CSS line can also be used by any user wanting to hide the score at the user level.

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by artyom@piefed.social to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Clickbait:

I understand not wanting to "editorialize" the author's title, and it's even forbidden in some communities. That's fine, just include something in the text, or possibly append it to the end of the title in brackets. ie:

Scientists have unveiled the secret to long life using this one weird trick! [diet and exercise]

Probably 90% of articles I come across can be summarized in 1-2 sentences. I often find myself doing just that, in other people's posts, but putting it in the comments makes it far less visible.

Sources:

Please do not link your post to a source of a source. Sometimes I have to click 3 and 4 articles deep to find the original source. Many times they don't include the original source, or any other source to speak of, they just link back to their own publication a dozen fucking times. If you come across an article that links to another source, which also isn't the original source, and without adding meaningful context, just link to the original source, please.

Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.

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The conditions that made 'leaving Twitter' a meaningful part of the open social web's identity don't exist for TikTok. What happens when people can't see each other leave?

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