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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/post/237378

Hello World!

We've recently added PieFed.World to the Fedihosting Foundation portfolio.

PieFed.World is still in its early stages, and we still need to port some of our automations we already have in place on Lemmy.World. This includes functionality to inform people about moderation actions taken against them, as well as some other moderation tooling. Administration is currently done by the same team responsible for Lemmy.World, and the same rules that apply to Lemmy.World also apply to PieFed.World.

What is PieFed?

PieFed is a Fediverse/Threadiverse platform similar to Lemmy or Mbin/kbin. You can find a description and feature comparison with Lemmy on their website.

While PieFed has a range of features currently not present in Lemmy, it also is a a lot younger and isn't quite as robust as Lemmy currently is. There are still many bugs and missing features that you will likely run across compared to Lemmy, which will take time to be addressed. PieFed has fairly active development and is seeing a lot of issues addressed fairly quickly, which is especially important recently, as the number of active PieFed instances and PieFed users increased significantly with a range of Lemmy instances opening up PieFed instances as well. PieFed currently does not have proper "stable" releases and no test suite, so it's not unlikely for things to break from time to time. Although 1.0.0 has already been released a while back, there are still too many issues addressed in more recent commits to stay on that version.

As PieFed is part of the same federated network as Lemmy and Mbin, all PieFed communities can be accessed from Lemmy and Mbin, as well as other Fediverse platforms. Likewise, PieFed can access communities from Lemmy, Mbin and other Fediverse platforms. Whether you use a PieFed instance, a Lemmy instance, or an Mbin instance, it does not matter what type of instance the community is on. The software affects your own user experience, but the content is available regardless.

Creation of communities

Creation of communities will be limited to admins for the first week of the public launch. We will reserve this time to allow community moderators of established communities to claim the name on PieFed.World before we open community creation to the public. We will limit this to communities with the same name and at least 2k monthly active users. In case of multiple qualifying communities with the same name on different instances expressing interest, Lemmy.World communities will be given preference, afterwards the number of monthly active users. Please reach out if you'd like to discuss an exception. Requests can be posted in !support@piefed.world. After the first week, community creation will be available to anyone.

Migration of communities

PieFed has a feature to migrate communities to a local instance. We will not be offering PieFed's community migration feature initially.

We still need to research the details of how this works and the impacts this has on federation before we will make a decision on whether will support this in the future. If requested, we may reserve some names for potential future community migrations until we have made a decision to allow community migrations.

This does not prevent you from moving communities in the classic way, by opening up a new community and posting in the old community that people should move over.

Private voting

We had previously disabled private voting for PieFed.World before opening the instance to the public, as the original implementation has a range of drawbacks when it comes to federation, and our team overwhelmingly believed that the individual benefits of private voting did not outweigh the impact this has on the Fediverse beyond the user's instance. Additionally, due to the implementation of that feature, it was also trivial to identify the original voter, which significantly limited the promises of this bringing actual voting privacy.

Since then, the implementation of private voting has been changed to provide the option of federating or not federating votes. While this is more likely to result in vote differences across instances, it does not feed bad information to other instances, which could make it a lot harder for other instances to identify manipulation.

Non-federated voting is available for all PieFed.World users.

Topics

Topics are a kind of "starter packs" or collections grouping multiple communities that people can follow, curated by the admin team. We don't have a clear vision for the structure of these yet.

You can see an example structure on piefed.social.

Feel free to let us know your thoughts on this.

Feeds

PieFed supports feeds, which are user-created groups of communities, similar to topics. These are currently in a global namespace and all users can create public feeds in the same shared namespace.

Reputation and vote weight

PieFed has options for admins to treat certain types of content differently for "reputation" calculation, as well as options for weighing votes of specific instances differently compared to others. We currently have all options for treating certain content, communities or instances differently disabled.

How does PieFed compare to Lemmy?

PieFed has various features not present in Lemmy, check out their website!

There is also various functionality that Lemmy has, which you may be missing currently with PieFed for now:

Limited API support

In Lemmy, the default web interface relies entirely on the Lemmy API. This has the major benefit of all functionality available in the default web interface also being available to all third party clients. PieFed currently uses separate code paths and implementations for the default web interface and its API. To make it possible to access functionality in third party apps, dedicated API endpoints have to be created, even if this functionality is already available in the default web interface. This also includes alternative web-based UIs.

Multiple developers of alternative UIs and mobile clients are already working on PieFed support, some already released experimental versions.

Limited availability of Markdown previews

Markdown previews are currently only available in posts. There are many other places that accept markdown, but you can't preview the rendered comment before submitting it. This is tracked in #532.

Image uploads only on post creation

Images can't be uploaded to comments currently. You'll have to host them externally for now. This is tracked in #768.

Autocompletion of users/communities

Usernames and communities can't be autocompleted when typing their names currently. This is tracked in #799.

Limited availability of modlog

Modlog is currently very limited. While there is an instance modlog, there are currently no filters available, so it's not possible for users to see actions taken against a specific user or within a specific community. Community modlog exists, but it is currently only available to community moderators and admins. Filtering modlog is tracked in #846.

Moderator hierarchy

Lemmy has a moderator hierarchy based on the time a moderator was appointed, relative to other moderators in the community. This allows moderators to add other moderators, but they can only remove moderators that were added later than they were. There are a few other actions that check moderator hierarchy as well, including deletion only being possible by the top mod. In PieFed, communities have one or more owners, who can add and remove moderators, while all other moderators are currently on equal level. Community owners currently cannot be changed without editing this directly in the database, if you'd like to change owners in your community please reach out in !support@piefed.world.

Donations

Similar to Lemmy, PieFed development is supported by donations. You can donate to PieFed development through Patreon.

Additionally, we would appreciate donations towards the Fedihosting Foundation, the non-profit organization operating PieFed.World, Lemmy.World, and a range of other Fediverse platforms.

Problems and questions

Please report any issues and questions about PieFed.World in !support@piefed.world.

For topics about the software PieFed, please visit !piefed_meta@piefed.social.

Bugs can be reported on Codeberg.

TLDR: New platform with similar functionality available, Lemmy.World will continue to exist.

edit: reordered sections and minor wording changes

edit 2: updated community owner information

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

For the past month a variety of lem.cochrun.xyz accounts have been spamming religious posts (all linking to christianpicturesblog.blogspot.ca) to a variety of unrelated Lemmy communities. Unless @forgetstoshave@lem.cochrun.xyz has an alternative explanation, the posts are likely all from one or a select few lem.cochrun.xyz users seeking to evangelize their beliefs across the Threadiverse, using sock puppet accounts to evade bans.

While they are welcome to post to relevant communities (just as other users are free to block those communities), spamming such content on unrelated communities is unacceptable. While use of the Threadiverse should be encouraged, spam only serves to push new users away, and thus should be handled via the defederation of lem.cochrun.xyz should it continue.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/45437770

I've been thinking a lot about the Fediverse ALT issue.

Some people are annoyed by posts without Alttext, & others get reminded¹ to add it.

The core question is: How can we improve accessibility?

Proposal: ☑️ Add a user filter to hide media posts without AltTag ☑️ Reduced engagement on hidden posts would encourage adding Alt text ☑️ People who need accessibility wouldn't have to encounter unlabeled media

If this gets traction, I'll open a Mastodon GitHub issue (maybe on others too?).

¹ https://mastodon.social/@madeindex/113996311493021102

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FR#158 – What is Mastodon for? (connectedplaces.online)

On AI and place, and how Mastodon gives tools to create communities at the instance level, but people experience 'place' at the federation level.

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What it looks like:

Here's an example of such a post: https://sh.itjust.works/post/58082125

They uploaded an image and then included a URL as the body/text.

On Lemmy, it looks like an image post, with a small expando to the right of the title that you can click to show the body:

Why you should stop doing it:

  1. It makes high-quality posts look the same as low-quality ones.

I automatically downvote most image/meme submissions and posts with bad/non-descriptive titles for quality control. Linking directly to a source is how you make a high-quality submission. You can include screenshots or quotes in the body of the post.

  1. I could start clicking the expando next to the title to check if a source was provided, but there's going to be a user option to block image posts in the next lemmy update (v0.20), so that format is not good since lots of people will start to automatically block them.

  2. You can put images in the body of the posts.

Why should anyone care?

Low-quality, easy-to-digest content will dominate and drown out everything else if no one does anything to limit it. It degrades the internet and our brains.

A blog that elaborates:

The Cargo Cult of The Ennui Engine https://medium.com/@max.p.schlienger/the-cargo-cult-of-the-ennui-engine-890c541cebcb

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by qaz@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Publicly Run Social Media – A Solution for Europe?

TikTok, Instagram and YouTube are not neutral public spaces. Designed to maximise attention and engagement, these platforms play a major role in shaping public opinion in Europe. They amplify misinformation, polarisation and hate speech, while also encouraging patterns of use that harm mental health.

The EU has begun to respond through the Digital Services Act. Yet success up to now is limited.

Could Europe build a public-service social media model, inspired by public broadcasting – social media that protect democratic debate, strengthen Europe’s digital sovereignty and offer a healthier online environment?

This event will explore that question and introduce a European Citizens’ Initiative calling for a European public-service social media infrastructure.

With Lukáš Mikulecký, Co-Leader of the European Citizens’s Initiative “European Public Social Network”.

New! 1:1 Conversations! After our one-hour open discussion, we invite you to stay for another 30 minutes. You’ll be paired up randomly and answer four questions together in a one-on-one conversation.

The idea behind: meet new people from across Europe and exchange ideas in a more personal setting. The breakout rooms will stay open for as long as you like.

I think it would be better to have these public spaces be outside the control of foreign tech companies, but I'm also unsure whether it would be better to have one centralized EU social media network. I think that the Fediverse (such as Mastodon) could be relevant here. How do other people feel about this?

EU citizens initiative: https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2026/000004_en

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When's the 2026 one?

https://canvas.fediverse.events

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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by robert.meyer86@piefed.social to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

I am currently working on a crossplatform browser for the fediverse, which will allow you to unify identities from mastodon, bluesky, and anywhere else across the open/decentralized social web into a single feed for easy browsing and management. It will also serve as a highly customizable and feature rich fediverse client, allowing profile and client theme customization, as well as groups, rss subscriptions, and several other features I've yet to fully flesh out.

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Things to note:

  1. This is a pre-alpha project, and just seeking some very initial feedback on the very broad strokes of what is planned and what is done so far. If you are interested in collaboration and furthering the development of the project, please feel free to reach out.
  2. Features such as groups (i.e. federating with the threadiverse such as lemmy/piefed) or rss subscriptions are not implemented yet, it's just a basic unified feed for bluesky/mastodon at the moment.
  3. This is not a live site that can be visited yet, it's just an app on your client that authorizes access to the various platforms through oAuth flows. However, the plan is to eventually have a dedicated server hosting infrastructure in place, with individual platform identities able to be registered on a unified instance, and local/self-hosting data storage options.

So, please provide any and all feedback you have on what I have shown above, both good and bad, and feel free to ask clarifying questions on how the platform will work overall. Open to hearing what people think of the idea overall.

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New Forum Community. (forum.unfinishedprojects.net)
submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by UnfinishedProjects@piefed.zip to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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[IMAGE ALTERNATIVE TEXT: “Unfinished Projects - In solidarity we can build a future that benefits us all."]

We have a new community and would love if you came and checked us out ( ദ്ദി ˙ᗜ˙ )

A couple of us have been working on a project that took quite longer than we expected, but we finally have opened registration on our forum, and would love for you to come check it out if you are interested :)

Our intent: We are trying to create a community focused on collaboration and genuine connections to create and make things with others. From software developers to artists, to handicrafts, and etc. We are working on a public wiki that can be used for creators to display and collaborate on each others projects that are openly licensed.

We want to create a community that is different than the much of the fast paced, superficial communications that happen on modern day social media - and instead try to build lasting connections where creative people and projects can grow and contribute to the commons.

From our "About Page":

An unfinished project is a seed that someone else can water when you no longer have the time or the tools.
The community thrives when we treat every piece of unfinished work as a stepping stone for the next person. You don’t need a long-term commitment to make a difference. Whether you finish a single page on our Wiki or solve one small problem in the Forum, you are making a project "slightly less unfinished" than it was yesterday.

We still have a lot of work to do to improve our platform (primarily our wiki - which is invite only until we ensure everything is working and in order), but we figured it was time to open up registration on our forum and see if we can get our few first members to help establish our community and maybe stick with us through a few more hurdles until we get everything more polished.

If this sounds like something you might be interested in being a part of, and are willing to stick around as we polish things up and try to grow, we would love to have you :)

I hope to maybe see one or two of you over at our federated forum!

PS: We will eventually be looking to "partner" with some other federated communities that share our values, so if you have a community that would be a good fit, feel free to reach out - as it would be great to have a network of communities that can support each other and provide value for the members.

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I posted about this issue a week ago:

Currently, instance bans and community bans are treated as two separate things. When a user is banned from an instance, you’ll often see in the logs a bunch of community bans alongside it at once (at least from Lemmy communities). These are communities that user has posted on. An instance ban automatically applies hard-bans to communities they have interacted in from that instance. But the problem here is its only communities they’ve interacted in.

The instance ban itself is simply a rejection of federation. It doesn’t block users from posting in communities on that instance - only the community bans do that. It just means their posts won’t federate out. This means that an instance banned user can continue to be a nuisance in most communities (or all, if they are pre-emptively banned) on an instance locally - and the moderators of that community and instance won’t even know because they don’t view their community from there. With larger numbers of users would also mean larger amounts of trolls and incompatible users, which could greatly increase the chance of people simply vandalising communities and no-one even noticing.

Lemmy 1.0 promises to fix this apparently from their end, but I think at least for as Piefed is concerned we could get in on this first. We need a hard block on all Piefed accounts from being to interact on any community that is from an instance they are bannedfrom. We also need a way before that for Piefed based communities to automatically throw out all comments made even locally by instance banned accounts based from Lemmy.

It's now been implemented on the latest piefed. A Piefed user instance banned from anywhere will now be hard-banned from all communities on that instance to prevent them from being a local menace unbeknownst the moderators of those communtiies. But all Piefed instances need to update.

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submitted 2 weeks ago by otter@lemmy.ca to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/62817221

After taking a lot longer than I was expecting to, I'm pleased to announce the results of the census we ran earlier this year!

This year, the results are on our website instead of being copied into a post here. I'm hoping that this is better since the website charts are interactive, with additional details if you click/tap on something. They also support dark and light mode. The full results contain discussion on how we processed the results, any assumptions we made, and all of our recommendations for how to improve this process for next time.

fedecan.ca/en/announcements/2026-04-03_censusResults

If you have any issues with the site, let us know and we will take a look.

I can also add screenshots in the comments so that people reading the comments don't have to search through the article for context.

A few sample charts

Section 1.5: Internet Speed

Section 1.8: Most common pets

Yes, the 200 cherry shrimp were all from one response.

Section 2.01: Age Distribution

Section 2.08: Education

Section 2.10: Desktop Operating System

The question on specific distro / version had a pretty low sample size, but you can find that too on the article.

Section 3.1.08: Most popular desktop UIs

Section 3.1.10: Most Popular Mobile Apps

Section 3.1.13: How often people use centralized forums/threaded platforms

Section 3.2.05: What people post on Pixelfed

Section 3.2.06: What people follow on Pixelfed

Section 3.3.04: Donations (of time or money)

Section 4.4: Favourite genre of music

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submitted 2 weeks ago by rimu@piefed.social to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

You'll get taken to a random community. Once you arrive there's a link at the top of the page to /r/random so you can just hammer away at that until you get somewhere that's the right combo of random and interesting.

There is also /r/randnsfw that takes you to a random nsfw communty if your instance has them.

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Teknevra@literature.cafe to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://literature.cafe/post/30387402

@threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works

Ik that there used to be Diagonlemmy, but, IMHO, we should create an instance that is exclusive to Harry Potter, and the Wizarding World.


Perhaps call the instance Wizarding.World, or something.

That way, Fediverse users who wish to interact with Harry Potter material can, and other users/instances/etc, can defederate/don't have to.


Harry Potter is only going to become more popular.

The HBO Harry Potter series is coming. Whether we like it or not, the HP fandom is about to have a significant resurgence, and it's going to find a home somewhere on the internet.


The question is whether that somewhere is Reddit, Discord, and corporate platforms — or whether the Fediverse gets there first and shapes what that community looks like.

People flock to spaces where they feel familiar and welcomed.


Rowling will profit from HP whether a Lemmy instance exists or not.

The Fediverse needs more projects that make immediate sense to people, and it needs to stop ceding entire fandoms to corporate platforms by default.


The move isn't to reject the fandom.

The move is to build the instance with explicit values — pro-trans, pro-queer, progressive moderation, zero tolerance for bigotry.

Pull HP fans into federated, open spaces and surround them with those values.

That's far more powerful than gatekeeping.


I shared this, because I wanted to know what the general consensus was.

Also if there were any users who might have any experience with potentially creating/running their own instance.

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cross-posted from: https://jlai.lu/post/35452508

Hely everyone!

Hope it's okay to post here, let me know if elsewhere is better. I'm glad to announce the third edition of Lemmyvision (the Lemmy song contest) is now live. I'm once again promoting the event and inviting communities of Lemmy to participate!

Don't hesitate to check the main post announcement for all the details here : https://lemmy.world/post/45063698

TL;DR

  • From right now and until May 3rd, discuss with your Lemmy instance or community about which song to send to the contest.
  • Submit the song in the Lemmyvision community by making a new thread.
  • On May 4th, voting will begin. You will rank your favourite songs in a form. Any song not submitted by this date will not be featured.
  • On May 11th, results of everyone’s favourite songs will be published.
  • You can use !lemmyvision@jlai.lu for any question, this will be the community for updates and results, make sure to subscribe if you’d like to stay in the loop.

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Beep@lemmus.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Here is my notes from using Lemmy:

  • There is core limitations on Lemmy which cannot be fixed even on the long term( for example finding communities via search. Results from .world is very different from the result that your instance fetch, no ability to upload media with the same ease and speed of Reddit,...etc);
  • Herd mentality is very deep on Lemmy, compared to other social media websites;
  • People seem to take disagreements in opinions personally, which is weird on it's own;
  • Lemmy users would like to have a working cancel culture so much that they would have no problem deepthroating a dick to get it;
  • Lemmy users and with them Digg 2.0 users, hate with passion anyone who criticize their platform and is ready to go against logic to defend it;
  • Lemmy Admins and moderators seem to have a control fetish: on Reddit, it was very normal and easy to me to reach out to a mod to restore my posts or to explain himself and even discuss and change rules or reverse discussions. Yes there was some of them who also had control fetish, but in the communities which I used to use that was kind of rare. Meanwhile here there is no modbox functionality which complicates talking with mods;
  • Some Lemmy users seem to be easy to obsessive over things.

I feel there needs to be disclaimer on Lemmy servers/introduction page to warn people about negativity on the platform, but I don't think it will ever happen.

About moderation, I feel the only outcome that will happen is bad moderation (IMO) will keep happening on the platform till either the servers hosting communities go down or till the mod become inactive.

On a side note it feels like a lot of Lemmy servers are suffering financially and might close soon, while Lemmy developers did not even try to help them by implementing third party upload functionality(Imgbb, catbox, imgur,...etc) in the app and the web front end to lighten the load on the server admins. Right now most Lemmy servers I know of are protected by Cloudflare and pictures uploaded on some servers don't open natively(you need to click it as a normal link and pass cloudflare verification to see image).

It's what it's here. but I just wanted to lay out what I think about Lemmy culture, moderation and software.

Edit:

More proof for my point:

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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by poVoq@slrpnk.net to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Catodon is a new Sharkey/Misskey fork (Edit: sadly with AI code contributions).

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submitted 2 weeks ago by xcel@piefed.social to c/fediverse@lemmy.world
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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by rangerdanger@feddit.online to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Just deleted reddit and working on getting off of facebook. I'm actually glad to be here. It's a bit of an adjustment but I think it's for the better. Cheers everyone.

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cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/49700074

On Mastodon, if you have an account on instance X, you can follow someone who is on instance Y. It creates a connection: X -> Y. If there are a lot of such follows, weight of this edge will increase, attractive force between points will be higher.

Original explanation on the page of Kaggle dataset:

"active users" graphs: For each instance, we consider the set of the 10K most recently active users. Then, for each user of an instance X, we consider the list of the users they follow, and add 1 to the edge from X to Y where Y is the instance the followed users. The weight of the edge from X to Y thus encodes how much the content seen on instance X is generated in instance Y. Note that this graph thus contains self loops.

I've tried to layout this dataset in Gephi, but it was a classic hairy ball - everyone is connected to everyone, amount of edges is too high comparing to number of nodes. Then, I've filtered out all EN instances and suddenly got a meaningful picture:

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What can we see? If English-speaking instances are ignored, German, French and Japanese languages are most common across Mastodon. Japan and Korea don't hang around much with other folks, while French, German and Spanish instances are quite interconnected between each other.

Size of nodes depends on centrality, post about centrality of Peertube instances is here.

Gephi table

Same, but Fruchterman-Reingold algorithm instead of ForceAtlas 2:

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Mastodon active users dataset can be downloaded here: https://www.kaggle.com/datasets/marcdamie/fediverse-graph-dataset-reduced

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What’s your opinion on tags.pub? (socialwebfoundation.org)

I’ll be totally honest and say that I don’t trust Evan (for reasons I’m not getting into), and I’m not sure why we need “hashtags with extra steps,” but I’d like to get opinions from people who are smarter than I am about this stuff.

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