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[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 79 points 1 month ago

It's not analogy, it's allegory. It applies too well to the world.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 21 points 1 month ago

I cordially dislike allegory in all its manifestations, and always have done so since I grew old and wary enough to detect its presence. I much prefer history – true or feigned– with its varied applicability to the thought and experience of readers. I think that many confuse applicability with allegory, but the one resides in the freedom of the reader, and the other in the purposed domination of the author.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 month ago

True. But in 21st century colloquial speech, a linguist would have to admit that, descriptively, "widely applicable" and "allegorical" are nearly synonymous. But I'm also a fan of the quote, history does not often repeat itself - but it rhymes. So whether it's fictional history or rough allegory, the end result is the same.

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[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

Europe after stopping fighting the most brutal and effective wars for centuries:

You're sure you want us back? We'll be united this time too.

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[-] rosco385@lemm.ee 32 points 1 month ago

I will draw you, Donald, as poison is drawn from a wound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIjVKbxuec&t=128

[-] Yaarmehearty@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago

I’m starting to think the same thing, if you go over US foreign policy since WW2 it is almost like the mask is just coming off entirely now.

[-] gabbath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 month ago

America did a lot of bad stuff, to put it mildly. This is definitely something else though.

[-] Yaarmehearty@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

I agree, that’s what I mean by it just going mask off, there’s no pretending about a probable cause of higher moral path etc this time.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Murica, land of the free, was founded by people who owned slaves. While speaking about the evils of slavery.

So the madness was always there.

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When did 'Murica, land of the free, abandon freedom for madness?

Oh, I got this one! Pick me, pick me!

Mexico, Samoa, Hawaii, Philippeans, Columbia, Hondurus, Cuba, Nicaragua, Mexico (again), Haiti, Dominican Republic, Russia, Greece, Costa Rica, Albania, Syria, Egypt, Guatemala, Iran, Syria (again), Indonesia, Iraq, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Cuba (again), Congo, Dominican Republic (again), Iraq (again), Guyana, Brazil, Chile, Bolivia, Angola, East Timor, Argentina, Afghanistan, Nicaragua (again), Granada, Panama, the USSR, Iraq (again again), Haiti (again), Yugoslavia, Afghanistan (again), Venezuela, Iraq (again again again), Haiti (again again), Palestine (continuously), Syria (again again), Libya, Bolivia (again), Venezuela (again)

[-] SourGumGum@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Can't help but to sing along

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I gotta organize them to make them more singable sometime.

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Murica was never free, has always been madness

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[-] darthelmet@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

We live in a country that was stolen then we stole some other people so they could do the work for us. Then conquering half a continent wasn’t good enough for us, so we went around ruining other places if they didn’t want to give us all their stuff. If people think we only recently crossed a line, I’d generously hope they were just ignorant because the alternative is horrific. Every piece of the past is a step that got us to where we are.

[-] prinzmegahertz@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The US is just Helldivers 2 in real life. A democracy managed by Elon Musk and people ready to die for „liberty“, „prosperity“ and „freedom“.

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Legend says it started with Trump getting a dirty sanchez in a Moscow brothel.

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[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

America may be able to join Russia, but ultimately the war in Ukraine is a war on Europe so how tf does Europe "join" Russia (besides handing over the entire territory)?

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I think that's the point, that's what Saruman here is advising, just like some European politics, unfortunately - to join Russia willingly, to become what Belarus is, a vasal state.

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[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago

Europe must join together send to shit USA and go full Gandalf the White

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Friesengard

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

More importantly, why is EU Gandalf supporting so many pro-Sauron leaders when they have USA Saruman's fall as a cautionary tale right in front of them?

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