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Feel free to call me out for being an asshole for any other reason, too. πŸ˜‰

Here me out though, inb4 "Why do you want to insult people without being offensive, you inane, paradoxical asshole?"

Well, here's the thing. I do want to be able to offend someone (in some cases), or to say something that might be considered offensive to them, even if not directed at them. More importantly, I want other people to have alternatives to insults, because people are going to use insults anyway, and making those insults less broadly offensive as a form of damage control is a far more achievable goal than doing away with insults entirely. But the purpose is to insult/offend a quality of their character, of that particular person (or a group of people who demonstrate a specific quality, attitude or choice etc), rather than using a random insult which uses a different group than the target individual/group as the butt of the joke and ends up, as a kind of crossfire/side effect, either offending that group or others or contributing to potentially harmful societal attitudes toward them.

I mean, do you have a problem saying "Misogynists are buttfaces"? No? But you just insulted a group. See what I mean? It's ok to insult groups sometimes. But why insult disabled people? They didn't/don't inherently do anything wrong or worthy of ridicule (obviously some disabled people do, like any group of people - but that has nothing to do with their disability). And I'm guessing most people are fine with saying "That person is a real... asshole". Hence the community this is in.

Let's set aside the debate over "Is the R-word (removed, not gRape) offensive to disabled people, or to others who might be offended on their behalf, and/or does it contribute to negative attitudes & potential treatment of those groups of people". Let's just assume for sake of example that it's an offensive or harmful term, or off limits regardless, because many people do take issue with that word and its colloquial understandings and associations/connotations. What would be a viable alternative? I can think of many...

But seriously, and please don't lynch me for saying it in this self-aware meta analytical context, nothing hits as hard as "That's fucking removed" or "What a fucking removed"/"What a bunch of fucking removed". These are powerful expressions, and they have the ability to persuade others to think negatively about a concept, thing, event, person or group of people, or to convey in evocative terms how you feel that something or someone is absurd, ridiculous or foolish. It may also be elements of the sound/enunciation of the word that are effective, even if you just read it and think of it. It's similar actually to the word "fuck/fucking", which I also used there. It means almost nothing extra but it can add emphasis.

And obviously the intention is (usually, or at least often) not to offend or even comment on anything about disabled people, and they aren't even in mind at all. So it is similar to saying "That's gay" (in a negative way), which honestly just sounds lame and cringe to me and doesn't have the same effect as the r word. But the parallel exists where a lot of people aren't thinking of actual gay people at all when they use the insult, and may be pro-πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ/LGBT, but it's still problematic regardless.

Now, I'm not defending using the R word at all, nor do I use it. I actively avoid using it, with the exception of this post. But I see others using it all the time, and I can't help but understand why they do, since it fills a bit of a linguistic box that other words haven't been able to fill as well, although I want to be corrected on that.

Other words which are contenders for replacements when used as an insult in a way that is intended to be used very generally and not directed at or referencing marginalized groups or particular groups at all, aside from "removed/removed" or "gay", include "removed", the N word, and maybe "motherfucker" (I get a lot of pushback from this one, aside from some feminists who agreed it's a little problematic - like "your mom" jokes). Also, using other animals as insults, but I know most people aren't going to agree with me on that one since it's more of a vegan/animal rights thing. Again don't lynch me. Yes, I'm trying to find ways that people can be assholes without being more of assholes than they need to. Does that make me an asshole? Also, do you have any suggestions? Thanks for reading, and "fuck you" (not really, you're alright).

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Happy Thanksgiving to anyone who didn't pay someone to exploit & slaughter a turkey this year and take their life, relationships, wellbeing, autonomy & freedom away from them. πŸ¦ƒπŸ¦ƒπŸ¦ƒπŸ’šπŸ’šπŸ’š To the rest of you, I wish you well in spirit. But I also wish you'd make different choices and be kind to innocent vulnerable conscious beings instead of cruel to them when given every opportunity.

Stephen Hawking was dumb. Yeah I said it. Because he thought that other animals didn't matter as much as humans, and we could conduct experiments on them and exploit them for our own benefit. (In reality, we have much better alternatives anyway). He also made mocking and critical comments about the idea of animal rights and animal rights activists, and even moderate animal welfare advocates, and used some really poor and fallacious logic to justify exploiting animals both for research and for food. For all his intelligence, he was dumb on the subject of animal rights and animal ethics more generally, and also made some quite silly and poorly received comments about philosophy not mattering as a field in order to dismiss his logical errors & contradictions and the academic critique they were met with.

Just as many of the most influential and intelligent people in history dropped the ball when they made absurd justifications for bigotry against our fellow humans, many did the same of our fellow animals. It just reflects the outdated thinking of the time, and being consumed by culture in an negative, harmful, oppressive way while others were more independently-minded and principled (like Einstein, Tolstoy, Tesla, DaVinci, Plutarch, Pythagoras, etc - all vegetarian/possibly vegan and talked about other animals deserving rights).

Other animals care about their lives in all the same ways as us. They're sentient beings with a conscious experience. What's legal isn't always ethical if we look at history. Be on the right side of the justice issues of your time. If you've gotten through your life thinking it's okay to violate nonhuman animals' interests and moral (would-be-legal) rights for unnecessary purposes, it doesn't mean you're stupid. Something just hasn't clicked for you yet. We can all change, starting now. End speciesism, or at least end carnism. End the domination, exploitation, victimization & oppression of the nonhuman animal species by the human animal species without need and for mere greed. Leave animals in peace, protect the planet from environmental destruction, do the right thing for your health and humanity & all sentient beings, and go VEGAN. πŸ¦ƒπŸ„πŸ‘πŸ–πŸ”πŸ•πŸŸπŸ¦‘

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I think that these, believe it or not, convey distinct meanings and aren't redundant. They use slightly different senses of the words.

For example:

"It's possibly possible for humans to colonize Mars/create sentient AI."

"It's possibly possible for me to lift 400 pounds if I became a bodybuilder."

"It's possibly possible for Earth to combine with another planet".

That is, it may be possible for humans to colonize Mars or create sentient AIs, or for you to lift 400 pounds, but we don't know yet. (Without making empirical claims, let's assume for sake of example that we know this to be true.) The first meaning of possibility relates to chance/probability whereas the second relates to ability/capability/feasibility. Another way to express it more clearly is "It's potentially possible/there's a chance that it's possible/capable of happening or being done". To just say "It's possible" might convey the same meaning, but risks confusing/conflating it with saying that it's definitely or even currently possible, rather than hypothetically (either physically/nomologically or just logically) possible in the sense of not currently being able to rule it out, falsify/disprove it or prove it either way (but having reason to think it could happen in some scenario).

"It's not necessarily necessary for you to wear a tie to the meeting, they might not care."

"It's not necessarily necessary to use antibiotics to treat the infection".

It may be necessary (in achieving a stipulated goal/outcome, such as success in getting a job or promotion, or tackling an infection) for some conditions or event/actions to be true/occur like wearing a tie or using antibiotics, but not definitely (we can't guarantee it would be required). First necessary relates to degree of certainty/confidence/conviction or accuracy/completeness of what you're saying, second relates to its requirement for serving a purpose (whether or not the purpose is itself necessary/required in any way). One way to say it might be "It's not definitely/absolutely/guaranteed to be required/essential".

How speak?

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When looking in the mirror, you can easily tell when you're smiling.

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It would certainly shine a light on why people almost exclusively talk about meat when talking to vegans. If "meat" is being used to mean any and all dietary animal products, or even just including dairy and eggs, not just animal flesh, then it would explain a lot of behavior I've experienced.

I think vegans know, that all you hear from non-vegans is talk about meat. Trying to provoke us by saying they like/love meat, or meat is tasty, or that they're eating meat, or in cases of the internet, people (farmers, homesteaders) informing us that they'll be personally slaughtering animals in our name and attributing blame to us for that action. But even in less hostile cases, talking about how much they would struggle to give up meat, or debating the ethics, environmentalism, health & other factors purely related to meat production & consumption, defending their own consumption of meat or others', while seemingly ignoring what a vegan is and treating us as if we're vegetarians.

Ever since being vegan, it's been a weird notable experience for me that everyone talks to me about "meat". When I was vegetarian (by my understanding of the definition at that time, which just meant no consumption of animal flesh/bodies), no one ever talked about it. As soon as I'm vegan? "Oh, a vegan. Meat, meat, meat." It would make more sense to me if people said that when I was vegetarian, and then started talking about dairy, eggs or leather to me all the time when I went vegan. But I digress. I do have theories, like maybe the existence of people who don't use any animals with an ethical association triggers them more, and maybe that causes them to default to asserting their defiant attitude to continue consuming the "product" they're most attracted to, meat (though you also hear very frequently "I could never give up cheese").

Btw- "meat" isn't what I would rather say. I don't even like that word anymore, at least when used for animal flesh, because it feels like a euphemism & helps distance consumers from what "it" is. Plus, it denies the existence of plant-based meat or its meat status (nvm how meat just meant food originally, including plants). But I'll call it meat for these purposes or clarity and because we're discussing how language is used.

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

That could all be true, but I should clarify when I said I felt like crap I meant physically (mentally as well, sure). As in, how you feel if you're really sick and unwell. Nausea, queaziness, headache, pain, lightheaded, etc.

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I blame society for telling me to use drugs. I went along with it to fit in. I don't care about fitting in anymore, but I don't think it was my fault for partaking given the social atmosphere. So why do I have to suffer these dreams that torment me about it? Do I have unresolved trauma related to it or some shit?

PS. I am straight edge now, I haven't used drugs in a long time and don't think about them while I'm awake at all. I prefer to be sober minded. The only part they play in my life is in occasional dreams apparently, which are usually negative and unpleasant.

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Is this a satirical statement mocking the free Palestine movement or a genuinely pro Palestine slogan?

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Or is it "The monkey for whom I'm wondering if they can see my ears."

or

"The monkey, regarding whom, I'm wondering if they can see my ears."

or

"The monkey who I'm wondering if they can see my ears."

All of them sound stupid.

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SPOILERS for all ahead:

Can the Joker universe (Joker and Joker: Folie a Deux) and The Batman universe (The Batman, its upcoming sequels, and The Penguin TV series) be considered the same continuity in headcanon, even if not in reality?

The way they're structured seems like they almost could be in the same universe, and many people questioned if they were at some point before it was confirmed they weren't. Joker kind of acts as an origin story for the Batman mythos and his "Rogues Gallery" generally, not for any specific version of Batman, but it seems to connect quite well with Matt Reeves' The Batman: Bruce Wayne is a child in Joker, Harvey Dent is quite young in Folie a Deux and just had his villain arc set up, and the new version of the Joker we see in Arkham at the end of the second movie was also not much older than Bruce at the time, so that they could serve as villains for him once he grew up. And we seemingly saw a version of the Joker in Arkham at the end of The Batman; maybe that's him, or yet another person who carried on the mantle of the Joker that was established in the 2 Joker films.

I want to make clear that I'm not asking if they are in the same universe, I know they're not (officially)... nor am I asking if they should cross over in some way, I don't think they should. Just whether they could be compatible in theory.

Also, I'm aware that the tone is different, though very similar. I don't think The Batman's depicition of Gotham, Arkham and society in general are quite as bleak/cynical or the people in it are quite as horrible as in Joker's version, but Joker is seemingly set a long time before The Batman so that could explain the differences there as the society progressed and became a bit less harsh by the time of The Batman. They share a gritty, slightly mature style focused on Gotham's underworld and the grounded nature of only showing criminals and people that could exist in reality.

The one continuity issue I see is regarding what happened to Bruce Wayne's parents, but if that one element was removed could they otherwise be conciliated? Also, couldn't we just argue that the criminals that killed his parents in The Batman were actually Joker's followers just presented differently (and with different actors playing his parents of course)? We didn't see much of that time period when Bruce was a kid in The Batman, so it's possible there was an Arthur Fleck that had started a riot at the time?

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All of the info about why added sugar is unhealthy compared to fruits seems to be that the sugar in fruit comes with fibre and nutrients that offset the negative health impacts of sugar to a degree by delaying its absorption and preventing a blood sugar spike.

However, by this reasoning alone, wouldn't it be possible to infer that if added sugar was paired with the same amount of fibre and nutrients, its effects could be mitigated in the same way as they are in fruit?

Well I haven't found any evidence either supporting or negating this idea or anyone even talking about that question specifically aside from a few other people asking the same thing, and random people replying without citing any evidence. For example someone suggested that indeed taking this approach may work a little bit, but it still won't be as healthy as eating fruit due to the "fibre-infused food matrix" of fruit or that sugar that is found naturally in fruits is "complexed" with fiber that slows down the absorption more, whereas the added sugar is more freely available to absorb quickly because it's separate from the fibre even if eaten together with it (though the separate fibre will still do some of the same job but not as well)?

"It can slow the absorption of sugar slightly but won't make a huge difference. Sugar from wholefruit and veg will always be processed differently due to the food matrix the sugars contained in that must be vroken down resulting in a slow and gradual release, when u eat added sugar but just have some fiber all that sugar is still there readily available to absorb. Overall it would be better to just stick to fruit and eat mixed macro meals with healthy unsaturated fats and proteins"

Well if possible I would like to see some scientific evidence/studies talking specifically about the difference on the body between consuming whole fruits containing their natural sugar and fibre + nutrients, compared to consuming added sugar along with foods containing fibre and nutrients in equivalent amounts (such as bircher muesli with added palm sugar, or another example if necessary for the sake of equalizing the fibre+nutrients content), and ideally health outcome data showing there is actually a difference between these...

And just more information in general about the idea of naturally occurring sugar and fibre contained together in a single food matrix being different/more healthy than added sugar taken together with separate fibre foods.

Thanks

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It's a classic techno song that might be described as euro trance. I think I've heard the song but I'm asking for a friend. It might be an instance of the Mandela effect because the song can't seem to be found anywhere.

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It's a classic techno song that might be described as EuroTrance. I think I've heard the song but I'm asking for a friend. It's possible it might be an instance of the Mandela effect because the song can't be found anywhere.

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

I misread the question.

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

By playing beatbox music and making everyone stay away from me while I grew corn and ate it slowly in front of them while they watched me cautiously from a distance.

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

You're right technically... but i should have said "fictional story" and "plays multiple characters"

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ok I have another example.

Another example might involve arguing that the disposal of hazardous waste is necessary because it's a byproduct of a particular manufacturing process, while ignoring the question of whether that manufacturing process itself is essential or necessary. This fallacy occurs when one justifies an undesirable or harmful element as a necessary component of a larger practice or system without questioning the necessity of the entire system or practice.

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Actually almost all male calves do (in the dairy industry), because they can't produce milk and it wouldn't be profitable or financially feasible to keep them alive otherwise

"Male dairy calves are surplus to the requirement of dairy production, and thus, are often sold from the dairy farm in early life. In the United States, male calves are generally sold within days of birth (Shivley etΒ al., 2019) for veal or dairy beef production (Perdue and Hamer, 2017). Raising young male dairy calves for meat, particularly veal, is a contentious issue that has received public scrutiny in the United States (e.g.,Β California Prop 2, 2008) and globally (reviewed byΒ Bolton and von Keyserlingk, 2021)."

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fanim.2022.1000897/full

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can provide an example, but you might hate me for it. I swear this is just to explain what I mean by this fallacy because I can't think of another example right now.

Justifying killing/using an animal for its skin/hide (e.g. leather or fur), because you're already killing the animal for its flesh, when in actual fact the killing of the animal doesn't need to take place at all (hypothetically).

Or justifying the killing of calves for veal as a necessary component of dairy production, when in fact dairy production isn't necessary, either.

I hope that makes sense

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Or, maybe both pronouncers (the "jiff" gang and the "giff" crowd) will team up against me for saying that. At least we'll have harmony for most people if that's the case, and I'll be a sacrifice to keep the peace.

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Agreed. Another thing I would change is that I wasn't alerted that the post had been removed, only saw that it was missing from my profile. And I only found the reason for the deletion once I used the backlog feature, which isn't a feature that's made immediately known to users (I only found it after researching).

[-] SeahorseTreble@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So, the plants found a way to hijack the bees' journey by putting some extra pollen on them to take to other flowers, since they're already there taking pollen anyway? That's awesome.

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