@sunaurus@lemm.ee please consider this a report for defamation. I doubt that there are any pedophiles among the admins of lemmy.world, and if there are, I don’t think “I got over it” is a good response when asked about details. I think this is of a piece with this post, just a bad-faith attempt to cause strife for apparently no reason at all.

I just know that users from lemmy.world post stupid stuff to me on a pretty regular basis. I'm not aware of any lack of moderation that means that the stupid stuff goes unchecked, except from lemmy.world, as well lemmy.ml, Hexbear, and the like. The flavor is different but the distastefulness is consistent.

I saw the response from sunaurus, which matches my experience.

Maybe they detected the compromise on the secure network, and only after some forensics did they work out that it came from a compromised laptop in a neighboring building.

This is just my anecdotal experience as an outsider, but the volume of nonsense coming out of lemmy.world dwarfs anything coming out of any other server. Three separate times this week I have had groups of people from there aggressively telling me some kind of total gibberish. I thought about defederating rss.ponder.cat from them, just on general principle to encourage people to go elsewhere and improve the overall cultural quality of the network.

I can't speak to sh.itjust.works, to me they seem fine. lemm.ee I've never had an issue with. lemmy.world is just a nonstop fountain of drama and ridiculousness, though. Deliberately hosting and making a home base for UniversalMonk for months, for example, I will never understand.

What community did this take place in?

Edit: I think I found it.

https://lemmy.world/comment/12606768

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&userId=1040702

It's sort of an ESH situation, and after that length of bickering I can't see why either of you continued the conversation. But I don't at all agree with your summary. It looks to me like he wanted to talk facts, you wanted to insult him and avoid the factual discussion, and he ended the conversation and then removed one comment afterwards where you started going after him personally ("insipid" "impetuous" "childish").

I'm not sure what you were trying to accomplish by refusing to answer his questions and instead inflaming the bickering, but ending the conversation and removing the escalation sounds like the right response to me.

One clarification, it was two reports in one week, I don't know why I typed out two weeks. You're completely right though. No one needs to put up with being berated, the peaceful offer to just not do reports anymore is a lot more kind than I would have been about it.

Yeah, FS was just reporting as a normal user in someone else's community.

I do get what you mean. It wouldn't have been hard to read between the lines. Blackbeard was clearly hinting that "No misinformation" in the sidebar means "No linking to Breitbart" but that political misinformation accounts are okay. I think it was pretty fair for FlyingSquid to ask him to clarify exactly what he meant, though, and lay out clearly that in his reading of the rules he was reporting a rule-breaking comment and so didn't do anything wrong, instead of operating off of Blackbeard's hints. Especially since it sounded like he was getting conflicting "hints" from other moderators.

Like I say, my judgement on it is influenced because I personally wish the LW moderators would do a lot more about the accounts that are clearly there just to put political misinformation of some type into the comments, so I probably would agree with FS's categorization of that user and be resistant to someone telling me not to worry about it because it's impossible for anyone "just stating an opinion" to be misinformation.

But, it’s not a shared responsibility. Two times in a week he saw something in someone else’s community and flagged it, trying I guess to be a good citizen, and then he got this demanding and rude extensive DM chat about it with all these personal accusations. I sort of agree that he let his buttons get pushed, but he tried way harder to keep an open dialogue about it and reach a real resolution than I would have.

I think about the time when he offered to just not report anything, problem solved, and Blackbeard said he was childish and ridiculous, I would have just said “I wasn’t asking. You’re not my boss, I am free to report or not report in any fashion I would like to. If you want to give me grief about my reports, but refuse to clarify which ones you do and don’t want to receive, then I will not report. Have a good one, the matter is closed as far as I’m concerned.”

It is not misinformation to say that Kamala Harris is the commander in chief of the largest military force in the world and she is overseeing a genocide.

That is textbook misinformation.

• Kamala Harris is not the commander in chief, Biden is.
• Kamala Harris is not "overseeing" anything in Gaza. Netanyahu is overseeing the genocide, Biden is arming it for some reason, and Kamala Harris is a whole different person running a political campaign to be able to make decisions about what we're going to do now that our ally has apparently decided to kill millions of people who didn't do anything wrong.

The linkage of Kamala Harris with the genocide in Gaza, persistently and disingenuously, with an apparently-successful outcome of greatly increasing the genocide by putting Trump in charge instead, is one major type of misinformation on Lemmy. If you were coming and saying "It is not misinformation to say that Kamala Harris hasn't even condemned the genocide and is losing Arab voters because of her attempt to waffle on this crystal-clear issue," then that wouldn't be misinformation, whether I agreed with it personally or not. But going off into factual la-la land in order to accomplish your political goals for any particular discussion is absolutely misinformation. Thank you for providing a good example.

Blackbeard had the option to clearly say, "We want to allow people to say any bad thing about the Democrats that they want, even if it seems clearly disingenuous or like a pattern on the part of that particular user. We don't consider that to be misinformation." That would have clarified things and my guess is that FlyingSquid wouldn't have argued with it. Blackbeard's desire to tiptoe around saying that directly, for obvious reasons, and just say "be more discerning," was what led to FlyingSquid's confusion which Blackbeard for some reason interpreted as being hostile and obstinate about it.

It's like a flashback to every boss who gives unclear direction about expectations, even when giving you a bollocking about how you did it wrong this time and even when asked point-blank. Except, FlyingSquid isn't getting paid to put up with it, hence the "I think I just won't participate then" which is probably a lot more polite than I would have been about it.

Full disclosure, I tend to agree with FlyingSquid in the instance that kicked all of this off. I don't have a clear opinion of them as a mod, but personally I wish the LW mods would do a lot more about the "Kamala Harris = Hitler" type of misinformation that gets a free pass on a lot of LW.

FlyingSquid comes across as perfectly reasonable in this conversation. Their arguments that another mod thanked them for reporting stuff, that it's two reports over the course of ~~two weeks~~ a week which is hardly excessive, and then when the two people couldn't see eye to eye, they said they just wouldn't flag anything, sounds all perfectly reasonable and sensible. For some reason that wasn't okay, and the conversation got personal, with Blackbeard constantly posting these aggrieved attacks about how FlyingSquid was being childish if he didn't continue to report things in someone else's community occasionally, but never anything that the mods there thought was not worthy of removal. And then petulantly refusing to say something along the lines of, "Of course you're welcome to post there if you want" when asked repeatedly if it was okay for them to just post and participate still.

I haven't seen any Discord harassment, so maybe I missed something, but if this is what gets posted as justification for why FlyingSquid is a terrible moderator, I suspect that the "harassment" is more of the same. Maybe it's along the lines of "not saying exactly what I want you to say, or having conversation with other people where you say things I don't want you to say." People are allowed to disagree with each other over what is misinformation, or choose not to report content in someone else's community if they get some hostile responses when they do. Trying to order someone else around and then getting personally insulting with them when they politely tell you "No, I don't agree with how you see it," is ridiculous.

Edit: I don't know why I said two weeks, it was one week.

Yeah, I feel like this is one of those “too good to be true” situations. If they can’t find anyone on earth who wants to pay more than $1 for this house, there is probably a strong reason for it.