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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Sunny@slrpnk.net to c/privacy@lemmy.world

Real unfortunate news for GrapheneOS users as Revolut has decided to ban the use of 'non-google' approved OSes. This is currently being posted about and updated by GrahpeneOS over at Bluesky for those who want to follow it more closely.

Edit: had to change the title, originally it said Uber too but I cannot find back to the source of ether that's true or not..

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[-] nesc@lemmy.cafe 61 points 1 week ago

So it wasn't really about attestation or security. I am really shocked!

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 52 points 1 week ago

Oh, no, I can't use the McDonald's app!

Can't remember the last time I spent money on McDonald's over priced crap.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

When they helped Trump win political points, they bought a lifetime boycott from my. "Franchisees are free to do whatever they like." Is explicit consent from corporate, not the side step they thought it was.

Especially since their Franchisees are not free to do anything that corporate DOESN'T like when it comes down to the building, or decor, or supplies, or food, or special deals, or whatever the fuck else is involved in running the damn business.

However, for politics, gee shucks they just can't have any rules and the franchisees are just able to do whatever.

My bullshitometer hit 11 on that one.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I finally had enough of them last week. 3 shitty, horrible cheeseburgers (no drink or side) cost as much as a proper toasted turkey club sandwich, apple fritter and coffee from Timmy's. I'm done with their trash food. I'll eat Timmy's trash food, at least it's halfway tasty.

[-] gianni@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Fair, but Timmies is also dogshit. Has been since it was acquired by the multinational conglomerate, Restaurant Brands Incorporated.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Yah, but in terms of availability, it rivals McDogshit and if I'm going to spend $10, Timmy's dogshit is slightly better and you come away with a full meal and drink, at least.

[-] thebigslime@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Doesn't their website offer the same functions?

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Every platform costs. (QA + dev + prod) * Platforms

Nearly Everybody has a phone. They have kiosks at every store and a register.

They don't make more money for a web app.

[-] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

no. you can't order from the mcdonalds website, it tells you to go to the app. if you wanted to you could use the doordash website, or the like

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They have a different app though, it looks different and doesn't order at McDonald's but at least the food is better.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago

You shouldn't be eating fast food all the time

[-] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 week ago

Didn't the GrapheneOS devs threaten to sue Google over the attestation issue last summer? Whatever happened to that?

[-] lukes26@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago

According to the bluesky thread they're talking to regulators now and are still planning on suing. Hopefully they do and something good comes from it.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

At what point it was acceptable for everyone to demand you download there app?

Why would I need any of these?

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lol why would I have ever done that? If I need an app for your service I don't need you. (Reddit) (YouTube) Etc ..

[-] phubarr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At the point that greedy corporate vultures realized that people don't perceive or completely understand the privacy you're giving up in exchange for a few percent off your order, which you better believe has already been jacked up to compensate for the discount.

GrapheneOS protects your privacy, so if the companies pushing their apps can't harvest your data, they see no reason to let you use the app to get your discount.

If they can't trick you, they don't want you playing their game.

[-] phubarr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To add a little more context, I worked at a corporate marketing firm for 16 years, and I can see through their bullshit ulterior motives like a superpower.

The US is heading into a society where ALL corporations will have their own "loyalty" cards, which you present at time of payment for your discount, which actually serves to track your consumer habits (through being linked to your personal information like name, email address, phone number, physical address, etc).

Eventually, as this opt-in, privacy-invasive trend goes unregulated by our government (due to corporate infiltration of our government's regulatory agencies, the term being "regulatory capture". Learn this word, you will see it on your exam later.), what we see as advertised prices will begin to only apply to those with loyalty cards, the hidden meaning being that the sale price is contingent upon providing your private data. The corporations will pour millions into researching the smallest possible discount which will convince you to participate. Make no mistake, rest assured this is by design, the various industries have colluded, directly or indirectly, during this greedflation era to make it so financially difficult to exist, and have made us all so desperate to get by, we are everything but forced into their privacy disclosure program because we need every little bit that helps.

Goodbye privacy.

Say goodbye to the days of traditional, old-fashioned "here's a sale, here's the money" type of transaction. The buzzards in corporate finance department have found yet another incrementally more efficient way of extracting even more profit from you during the sale process. The era of loyalty cards/proprietary corporate apps is coming fast and hard, so get used to it because it won't be going anywhere but further up your ass. I see these trends and this is ultimately why I left my corporate career. Once I saw it's cold unquenchable heart of greed, I didn't want to use my talent to further stoke the flames to revive the capitalistic greedfest that consumed the 80s. The only difference is that in the 80s, they lacked the technology, government policy, and the understanding of the socioeconomic mathematical models in order for the 1% to plunge us deeper into this hellscape we enjoy today.

[-] phubarr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The most ironic thing is that if you open a history book, we convinced the entire world to crap all over communism, because of its near-certain tendency for corruption and mass suffering... due to greed. Now look at us, we're just one bad presidential term away from being just as bad off as the USSR. "Trickle-down economics" didn't "trickle down" at all, it just funneled more wealth to the greedy rich. Oligarchy, anyone? Now, as a result, if you want (or don't want) a law to apply, you can just pay enough money into the corrupt system and get the rules changed for you. The concept of "trickle down economics" was truly a communist policy in sheep's clothing.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Pretty much COVID. Now that they've invested....

[-] piyuv@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago
[-] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Eh, whatever. If they won't support me, I won't support them.

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Oh so they banned their app being used on the OS? I was confused by the title as if they banned it in the workplace or something which would be even crazier

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

This is probably the coolest news for Graphene!

[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

As a revolut user, this is pretty Bad news lmao.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

When a big company blocks use of their app if you use something from a smaller company, users will choose the big company over the small company. Just ask WeChat about how they kill competitors.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I don't know what you are saying but it sounds smart

[-] mEEGal@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

is there some sort of Android emulator on Android ?

could help this kind of nonsense, what do you think ?

[-] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

Emulators/VMs are not going to pass safetynet

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Last time I called an uber it never came…. Good riddance

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago

Sorry but it seems I might have been mistaken by calling out Uber on this one. Thought i read about Uber during this but I cant find back to it. Have changed the title.

[-] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

There's probably a way to spoof the Android OS right?

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 week ago

Uber: I don't see it listed in the FAQ. I just installed it, and it works. Where does Uber come from in the post title?

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Originally I am 100% sure it was either on that list or in another source I was reading, but cannot foe the life of me find back to it... Very strange.

GrapheneOS folks have also mentioned that they're progressively going to expand on their list in their docs.

But let's face it, if any app is planning on implementing googles API then it's Uber. But if I can't find back to it I will ofc change the title.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

This is great news. Let them isolate themselves and lose business.

[-] officermike@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

I'm sure these mega corporations are very sad about the loss of business from all 100 Graphene OS customers they had.

This is informative and unfortunate

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago

Did they do it cos people where spinning up hundreds of instances of the app in virtual machines and claiming free shit.

[-] Sunny@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago

no.

they're doing it because they're following googles recommendation of integrating Play Integrity API.

https://developer.android.com/google/play/integrity

[-] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

Title gore much

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