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[-] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

U guys want trump? No? Go vote then.

[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago

Everyone needs to VOTE. End of story.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

@Sunshine, I like the idea of engaging fellow voters by surfacing interesting ridings. We should do more of that. Highlight close races, and who's the main contenders. Might get some people in those ridings informed and others motivated to get out and vote.

[-] Thalion@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

While I don't enjoy seeing our politics being reduced to a two party system, given the lack of proportional representation this seems like an obvious decision for the NDP voters and even the party itself. Better a liberal than Conservative when they're clearly not going to win.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Proportional representation sucks (see Israel for an example of how that can go wrong) and it will never happen because nobody can promote it without also indicating they like it because it will give their preferred political party an advantage. So it all sounds like "I want to change the democratic system so that my party will win" which puts you on the same level as people that want to rig elections.

Ranked choice voting would be a better thing to promote for people that find it difficult to accept democracy is about making compromises. In the end you'll never have a system where millions of people will get exactly what they want, but if the goal is to give immature people warm and fuzzy vibes when they vote for a party that doesn't have chance of winning, then ranked choice is a way to do that without giving political parties even more power than they already have.

[-] Adudethatis@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

I'm so disappointed in our country at this point. 4 years of conservative government across North america- good luck everyone who doesn't vote for PP

[-] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not really clear where your position is, but I will make my position clear: We all see where right wing populism ends up just by looking south of us. It's a disaster. Copying that in this moment is outright idiocy. Picking the right wing populist who has never been on the right side of an issue and who mimics the exact policy beats of the Republicans is a surefire way to go down the same path. We need to tell the Conservatives to drop their culture war crazies, stop fighting against experts, stop trying to remove rights from people, and focus on real solutions to real problems.

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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Very strong collaborator vibes from this one.

[-] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I really hope the polls are right and we don't get a conservative government. But polls are notoriously wrong now.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I keep hearing statements like this, but they're not backed up by data. Polls are rarely "wrong" and aggregators such as 338Canada do a pretty good job of predicting local races. While there are are some historically bad misses (many pollsters for the 2016 US Presidential Election), IMHO the biggest issues is people not understanding what polls actually mean, and the media doing a terrible job of explaining them.

[-] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

My tepid take, every poll should report with error bars, would help somewhat, like I know they report moe but still, visual would be best to convey that quickly.

Doesn't help that in my experience, people just don't have a great grasp on statistics, was a common complaint of a statistician friend I worked with for years. As to why, stats specific courses weren't required when I went to highschool, I hope that's changed.

[-] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Also the 2024 election. Also the bc provincial election last year. Pretty sure the last federal election polls Also were wrong. Polls are instantly biased by the type of people that answer polls, or the audience that the polls are based on.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

The polls were good in the last federal election. It's just that the Liberals took the question of "who would you vote for if there were an election today?" a little too literally and called a snap election. People didn't like that and they dropped in the polls immediately because of that bonehead decision. The election result wasn't a surprise for anyone following the polls.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Also the 2024 election.

Almost all of the polls were within the MOE. The polls said it was a toss up, and it was.

Also the bc provincial election last year. Pretty sure the last federal election polls Also were wrong.

The results for both of these were very close to what the polls predicted. Not sure why you felt they were off?

Polls are instantly biased by the type of people that answer polls, or the audience that the polls are based on.

Very true, which is the job of pollsters to adjust for. And, as I've said, I think they are pretty good at their jobs.

[-] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

We will circle back to this in a week and see how things went.

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