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Everyone needs to VOTE. End of story.
No they don't. I probably won't vote this year. I'm in Leduc-Wetaskwin tell my why my vote matters? At least when the vote subsidy was around I could vote and know something happened because of it. Now I am caring less and less each election.
The next election that matters for me is provincial as the ANDP has a chance.
What do you mean? The subsidy is still there. Every vote is 2$ to the party you vote for. For example, I know in my riding that the liberals are certain to win. So I voted NDP so they can have my 2$ at least.
Go vote!
Per vote subsidy was eliminated by the cons in 2015
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_political_financing_in_Canada#Per-vote_subsidy
AW FUCKING HELL.
Only sane response
I still vote for NDP in my riding even though it's a Liberal stronghold. Not voting would amount to giving up, and we can't just give up no matter the odds.
My vote tells the NDP and their candidate that there are people out there caring for their platform.
What are you doing here then? If you don't care enough to take an hour to go vote then you shouldn't be spending any time discussing politics. If voting doesn't matter, then discussing politics on lemmy definitely doesn't matter.
Cool, your apathy is what will ruin this country regardless of your circumstances and context
Nope FTTP is what well ruin the country. The conservative are predicted to win in my riding by 99% NDP and Liberal have a less then 1% each of winning. You can call me apathetic all you want but my vote literally well not matter this election at all it is less then a fart in the wind.
Oh you are right, but vote anyway otherwise they have already won by disenfranchising you from caring. This is how Trump won by a third of the populartion not bothering to try.
I lived in Calgary, in Harper's riding while that slime was in power. I don't, and didn't, give a wet slap if I was the ONLY green booger on his otherwise blue quilt, my vote was my way to tell him, every time I could, that we weren't all in his corner. So, damn straight I voted, every goddamn time I could and you should too.
I’m in a riding that has been staunch CPC for a very long time, however, each election, a bunch of us get out and vote, and now this is the first time that a different candidate may win. Why? Because this time, enough people polled that way that the numbers show there may be a chance. And as a result, advance voting numbers have been through the roof.
The only way there’s ever going to be a chance in your riding is if enough people get out there to make a statement in the previous election.
Make this your “previous election.” We can work on eradicating FTTP in parallel.
I'm in an Alberta riding which is very likely to go CPC, but exercising my right to vote is also my civic duty.
So while it might not affect the outcome this time, my vote contributes to popular vote metrics, turnout, and in the case where there's lots people who happen to surprise (it is within the margin of error), my vote might in fact be the deciding vote that sways a riding.
It's a shame when people value democracy so little they can't be bothered to vote.
I'm sure there are a lot of other people who are thinking the same thing. This is why progression takes so long.
If you and the others like you vote, you may not change anything, true. However, you may increase the numbers enough to turn the tide in the next election. All votes matter. It'd be interesting to see the results if the 40% of Canadians who didn't vote last election do this time, or did last time.
There are people who strive to make you believe your vote doesn't matter. Sounds like they were successful.
You lazy fucker
Joined two years ago and only started posting 6 days ago... hmm.
I maintain it should be required by law to vote, punishable by expatriation. If one doesn't want to do the one thing required of them in a democracy, they can gtfo and live in an undemocratic country.
Expatriation is a bit extreme, especially when we don't even have a voting holiday. I agree with a strong incentive though, perhaps a 1-3% tax rebate?
...and the day off for everyone.
Nope. I am serious. We have to literally do one thing as citizens and that is vote. If one isn't willing to do that one doesn't get the benefits of a democracy.
You aren't serious. How tf are you going to "expatriate" someone? Put them in a rowboat and tow them into international waters?
Trumps doing it, you make a monetary deal with a prison elsewhere and fly people there
You act like I have the power to do anything at all. Chill out. I don't care how it would be done I think that's how it should be because it is that easy and important to vote.
Maybe you can send them to El Salvador.
I was thinking something cheaper and easier like a good old fashioned ice float but its called a brainstorm for a reason.
I could see this if every opportunity was made to allow it.
Loosing citizenship due to a debilitating illness is completely unacceptable for example.
It is weird how humans immediately try to find exceptions to a rule without ever discussing its full implementation in the first place.
It's full implementation is unacceptable as a hard rule. I agree with doing a lot to ensure everyone votes, but removing rights for reasons beyond one's control is the opposite of helpful.
No one said rights would be removed for reasons beyond control. Quit being ridiculous, shit isn't real.
Expatriation means losing basically every right in the charter, and is politically equivalent to execution. This reason (failing to vote) is also heavily biased towards people with less control over their lives, and disrupting someone from voting could be used as a weapon.
I can see punishments for failing to vote, but such an extreme response should be reserved for those who explicitly choose not to vote, and such a system would need a rigorous judgment to act on.
Having such a thin line between citizenship and expatriation is too dangerous. On one hand, choosing not to vote may be considered a serious enough act, but on the other hand there are dozens of reasons a vote can fail to be cast, and they would all need to be addressed before something as serious as expatriation is considered as a punishment.
I know what expatriation means, hence why it is a part of my idea. Frankly, if one doesn't have a really good reason not to vote I don't care how extreme the punishment is.
As I said in another comment cheap and easy like a good old fashioned ice float for being too lazy to do the one thing required of you in a democracy. If you believe that means people physically, or mentally, incapable of being able to do that would be expatriated you need to touch grass because we have numerous laws with exceptions. Welcome to Canada.
I suspect that, when certain election methods are used, it's possible to make your preferred candidate lose if you express support for them:
I can imagine that someone's best choice can be to entirely abstain from voting in some situations. I don't think it's ethical to force people to vote if doing so would harm them.
Making a law about an obligation to vote will probably make future electoral reform harder (since people will have to figure out / get confused about whether a change will make it more likely for them to land in court), and making it hard to change bad systems is surely a bad thing.
Incentivizing someone to show up and just cast a blank ballot could make it harder to detect fraud. For example, it might be convenient to dispose of ballots that someone intended to misuse by mixing them in with the legitimate ballots, and having more blank ballots that are actually legitimate would make it less clear whether something illegal has happened.
"Voting in all federal elections in Australia is a legal obligation for citizens aged 18 and over", but there isn't a very steep penalty for not doing so (and you might even get your name published in a newspaper, which some people might value for its own sake):
Having early voting and making the "main" voting day be a holiday for a large number of people seems like a good idea, since that makes voting easier for people who want to vote. Hounding people who don't want to vote (regardless of their reasoning) seems like a worse idea.
The blank ballot can be easily remedied by allowing the spoiling of ballots, or marking the vote in a way that doesn't indicate any choice.
I think this is a reasonable and valuable method of expressing political opinion, especially as this form can be counted. It also ensures that it was a deliberate choice and not just apathy.
Along the same path as incentivising people to vote, perhaps it should be cities/voting areas that get punished somehow for low voter turnout.
It is literally the only responsibility one has for all the rights and freedoms one enjoys in Canada.