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Such a weird article from Nintendo Life trying to defend the Switch 2 over the Steam Deck. And it's so cringe.

First let's talk about the contention that the Switch 2 has better value because it's comes with a dock.

Look, I can hook my Steam Deck up to my TV using a USB-C to HDMI adapter and use the Steam Deck itself as a controller. As for a dock itself, sure the official Steam Deck Docking Station costs C$109. However, I can buy a 3rd party docking station off Amazon for C$40. So that's not much of an argument.

The Switch 2 has a bigger screen that runs at 1080P. That great. But the Steam Deck has an OLED panel which the Switch 2 does not.

In terms of performance, the Switch 2 probably has a better GPU. However, it lacks the Steam Deck's CPU power. And it only has 12GB of RAM compared to the Steam Deck's 16GB of RAM. Will games look better on Switch 2? Only if CPU and RAM don't serve as bottlenecks.

The next thing: Switch 2 is supposedly better because a joy-con can act as a mouse. But they're really grasping at straws here because I can use an actual Bluetooth mouse with the Steam Deck—one which is more ergonomic too. Oh, and unlike the Switch 2, I can also use a Bluetooth keyboard too with a Steam Deck.

Apparently, the Steam Deck's touchpad so "too awkward" compared to the Switch 2's mouse. But you don't use a mouse in handheld mode—no one does. Touchpads, on the other hand, do work in handheld mode. And I find them much more suitable for FPS and RTS games than an analog joystick.

Now for the article's final point: the Steam Deck can't play Switch 2 games. This is actually the most legitimate point. However, it cuts both ways too. Switch 2 can't play decades of PC games, all which are accessible on Steam Deck. And I should know because I'm able to run literally thousands of games on my Steam Deck—many which don't even run on Windows anymore without lots of modding.

Can Switch 2 play F.E.A.R. without needing to jailbreak and emulate it? Nope—so in terms of game library, Steam Deck has the win.

But ultimately, this is a silly comparison because the Steam Deck is already three years old at the moment. Of course the Switch 2 will be able to do some things better than Steam Deck. It should—it's the newer piece of hardware.

However, when the Steam Deck 2 comes out—probably next year—how will the Switch 2 compare? I don't know, but it will likely have all the advantages that the Steam Deck still has but with giant generational leap in terms of performance.

Right now, if I wanted to, I could get a Lenovo Legion Go S. And it would be leagues better than a Switch 2. It has a AMD Ryzen Z2 Go APU, 32GB of RAM, and 1 TB of storage—which absolutely wrecks the Switch 2 in terms of raw performance.

But the reason I'm holding off is because I think the Steam Deck 2 will be even better.

This doesn't even touch about many points that makes the Steam Deck just plain better. The games are cheaper. You don't have to pay for online multiplayer. You have access to multiple storefronts like GOG or itch.io. You can use it as a PC in desktop mode. I can go on.

Now do I think the Switch 2 is totally lacking in value? No. If I had a young child, I'd probably get them a Switch 2 simply because it's more kid friendly.

However, I'm a full grown man. As for my kid? She's turning 12-years-old in a few weeks so I think she'll do just fine with a Steam Deck.

https://www.nintendolife.com/features/opinion-steam-deck-fans-are-seriously-underestimating-the-switch-2

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[-] ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

You know what has been great? Being on a vacation and bringing my steam deck and playing tears of the kingdom off of it with better performance than the original switch had. I paid for it and ripped it myself because I still believed it was the right thing to do, but with Nintendo's increased focus year after year against emulation enthusiasts like we're fucking criminals, I'm gonna give them something to bitch about. I'm never paying another dime to Nintendo for as long as I live, and that is coming from someone who grew up with a super Nintendo and an N64. Fuck yourself Nintendo. Yo ho and a bottle of get fucked.

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[-] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The main draw of Switch 2 is Nintendo software. That’s about the end of the discussion for me that makes me need one. Nintendo has always made my favorite games since I started playing in 1988. They still make many of my favorite games today.

I was mad at the pricing at first but then I put it in perspective. I really only buy 3-4 retail games per year on the Switch, and at $10-20 more each, that’s $30-80 more per year at most. Not a happy thing but it is what it is. That’s literally one night out with friends having drinks and food.

Still going to love my Steam Deck and still going to play plenty of games on it too… likely more than Switch 2 because of Steam deals and the fact that I trust Valve more with my digital library than Nintendo honestly. They’ve never let me down whereas Nintendo has.

[-] miguel@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago

But it's impossible for a human on the internet to like more than 1 thing at a time!

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[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago

Still wish Steam Deck would improve docked mode support, it's pretty janky.

[-] sudneo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

FWIW, I use it all the time on a dock and have no problems. I used to have HDMI issues, but it turned out it was an old cable (issue=TV connection didn't work at all). I also had to change controllers as apparently cable controllers drivers can't work with read-only filesystem. 8bit controllers work without issues. Me and my wife are super happy with it over all.

That said, maybe my standard is pretty low, but I just turn on the thing, open a game and play.

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Buddy, I have tried docked mode on windows (Ally + Windows + Bluetooth controller). It's hell! I can't wait to get back to SteamOS/Bazzite.

What problems have you faced in docked mode?

[-] rpl6475@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's an odd comparison, if the Steam Deck had Pokémon, Zelda and Mario etc., then there'd be a reason to compare them like for like.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 21 hours ago

It does... With emulation... That you can scale up to look better than any of Nintendo's consoles can do... Plus mods, save states all the benefits of emulation...

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 11 points 1 day ago

Hey, hey? Hey.

Two things can be good at the same time.

Stop it.

Unless you're ten and in a backyard and you can't get the other thing because you haven't mowed enough lawns or whatever and your frontal lobe is too squishy to cope with the FOMO.

But if you're "a grown man"? Stop it.

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[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Steam Deck's touchpad so "too awkward"...

The Steam Deck touchpads are literally the ONLY modern touchpads I like. Every other mother touchpad is absolutely atrocious because they don't give you anything like a vibration to tell you your mouse is moving and you actually get some level of confirmation you clicked. It feels like every other touchpad out there now, I swear, requires you to attempt to click on the left/right mouse button (completely integrated into the touchpad) about a billion times before it registers that you clicked once.

Also, if the joycons for switch 2 are anywhere near as uncomfortable to hold for extended periods of time like they are for me with regular switch, I guarantee my hand would start hurting after a couple minutes of the, probably gonna be as responsive as a dead man to a cannonball to the face, mouse mode. The premise of turning what could be one of the worst controller designs I've ever seen into a mouse makes my hands bleed in pain without having to ever hold one.

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[-] mrfriki@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Not need to argue, they have entirety difference audiences and that’s ok.

[-] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would assume a publication like "Nintendo Life" will promote Nintendo irrespective of what the issue is.

And to my limited understanding, the people who buy/use Nintendo are either children (you are not going to tell them they have shit taste) or hardcore fanboys who on some level will defend any action by Nintendo no matter what.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm neither and have a Switch. There's just some games i want to play on it.

Won't be getting a switch 2 though. That ship sailed considering how easy it is to emulate the first console.

[-] ZeroPoke@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

And I bet one of the reason Nintendo went after the Switch Emus when they did is cause the Switch 2 is just an upgraded Switch 1. So Emulation base is already done.

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[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I feel like all these "Switch 2 is bad" articles are missing the point. I'm not gonna buy Switch 2 for its superior hardware. If I buy it, I'll buy it for the next generation of Mario Kart, Zelda and Pokémon. You won't get that on a Steam deck. I probably won't, dough.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

You certainly will get all that on a Steam Deck, if you give it a little time.

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[-] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 1 day ago

The Steam Deck is a much better product from a value standpoint, a console will never be able to compare to a PC. So it's kind of pointless to compare them in this regard.

The only reason, personally, to buy a Switch is for the joy-con games, like games to play with friends and family. Like you would with the Wii ( checks notes, almost 19 years ago...). For an actual handheld gaming device, obviously the Deck is the better choice.

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[-] spicystraw@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago

Okay, so I gotta admit, that article about the Switch 2 being not-so-bad actually convinced me. They're right, it's awesome for parties and two-player gaming on the go. I didn't realize the hardware could do 3.2 teraflops docked (1.6 undocked)—the Deck only does 1.6!

Yeah, games are pricey, but I think Nintendo delivers good entertainment value.

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[-] Zahtu@feddit.org 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Honestly, with the Presentation of Switch 2, i guess they will again have a unsuccessful Generation (Like Wii U, N64 etc) of console ahead of them. That is why i Sold some of my Nintendo Stocks now while the hypetrain is still going. From my Point of View, the Controller-Mouse is a Gimmick at best - i want to Play a Handheld while on the move, Not by sitting at a desk. Not including a Touchpad is a failure. The price Point of both the Games and the console are the other Thing - Sure for the young Generation the usability of a Switch 2 IS good - but all other successful consoles of Nintendo were compelling to other chunks of dthe democraphic too, thats what made them successful - Nintendo DS was popular among students, Wii with families and elderly, NES with everyone below 30. And those demographics certainly care about price,and the Steam BigPicture UI is as good as the the Switch one.

If on the other Hand valve will Take some of the Features of Switch/Switch 2 to Heart with their next SteamDeck Generation i think, it will be widely successful (at least as Long as Gabe will stay with US and No enshittification Happens). Like the detachable Controllers on a SteamDeck2 with integrated Mouse functionality would Work really Well - because, and that is the deciding usability Factor Here - SteamDeck can also bei used as a Workstation. The Switch 2 can't, so the utility of a Mouse is much larger for a SteamDeck.

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

About that RAM argument, Steam includes Chromium that can consume up to 1.5 or even 2 GB for some people depending on circumstances (I checked myself when I had the Deck, it used 1.5 in desktop mode). I assume the OS on Switch is much more optimized. I wish Valve switched to something else, something more native.

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[-] amzd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I’m holding off is because I think the Switch 2 will be even better.

You meant steam deck I think?

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[-] drspod@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

However, when the Steam Deck 2 comes out—probably next year

Really?

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would be surprised of that was the case. Valve said they wouldn't release another one until there was a generational improvement and I don't think we're there.

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