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Such a weird article from Nintendo Life trying to defend the Switch 2 over the Steam Deck. And it's so cringe.

First let's talk about the contention that the Switch 2 has better value because it's comes with a dock.

Look, I can hook my Steam Deck up to my TV using a USB-C to HDMI adapter and use the Steam Deck itself as a controller. As for a dock itself, sure the official Steam Deck Docking Station costs C$109. However, I can buy a 3rd party docking station off Amazon for C$40. So that's not much of an argument.

The Switch 2 has a bigger screen that runs at 1080P. That great. But the Steam Deck has an OLED panel which the Switch 2 does not.

In terms of performance, the Switch 2 probably has a better GPU. However, it lacks the Steam Deck's CPU power. And it only has 12GB of RAM compared to the Steam Deck's 16GB of RAM. Will games look better on Switch 2? Only if CPU and RAM don't serve as bottlenecks.

The next thing: Switch 2 is supposedly better because a joy-con can act as a mouse. But they're really grasping at straws here because I can use an actual Bluetooth mouse with the Steam Deck—one which is more ergonomic too. Oh, and unlike the Switch 2, I can also use a Bluetooth keyboard too with a Steam Deck.

Apparently, the Steam Deck's touchpad so "too awkward" compared to the Switch 2's mouse. But you don't use a mouse in handheld mode—no one does. Touchpads, on the other hand, do work in handheld mode. And I find them much more suitable for FPS and RTS games than an analog joystick.

Now for the article's final point: the Steam Deck can't play Switch 2 games. This is actually the most legitimate point. However, it cuts both ways too. Switch 2 can't play decades of PC games, all which are accessible on Steam Deck. And I should know because I'm able to run literally thousands of games on my Steam Deck—many which don't even run on Windows anymore without lots of modding.

Can Switch 2 play F.E.A.R. without needing to jailbreak and emulate it? Nope—so in terms of game library, Steam Deck has the win.

But ultimately, this is a silly comparison because the Steam Deck is already three years old at the moment. Of course the Switch 2 will be able to do some things better than Steam Deck. It should—it's the newer piece of hardware.

However, when the Steam Deck 2 comes out—probably next year—how will the Switch 2 compare? I don't know, but it will likely have all the advantages that the Steam Deck still has but with giant generational leap in terms of performance.

Right now, if I wanted to, I could get a Lenovo Legion Go S. And it would be leagues better than a Switch 2. It has a AMD Ryzen Z2 Go APU, 32GB of RAM, and 1 TB of storage—which absolutely wrecks the Switch 2 in terms of raw performance.

But the reason I'm holding off is because I think the Steam Deck 2 will be even better.

This doesn't even touch about many points that makes the Steam Deck just plain better. The games are cheaper. You don't have to pay for online multiplayer. You have access to multiple storefronts like GOG or itch.io. You can use it as a PC in desktop mode. I can go on.

Now do I think the Switch 2 is totally lacking in value? No. If I had a young child, I'd probably get them a Switch 2 simply because it's more kid friendly.

However, I'm a full grown man. As for my kid? She's turning 12-years-old in a few weeks so I think she'll do just fine with a Steam Deck.

https://www.nintendolife.com/features/opinion-steam-deck-fans-are-seriously-underestimating-the-switch-2

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[-] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 13 points 13 hours ago

The switch and switch 2 are better than all handheld PCs at present for one simple reason: it's much simpler to obtain and use for the average consumer. That's it. Average consumers don't give a shit about teraflops and fps as long as it's easy to use and still looks good.

[-] Oberyn@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Also don't need fuckin anchor arms to carry it around

If only other handheld games consoles (that aren't "retro" ones) tꝏk lightweightedness into consideration !

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

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[-] doxxx@lemmy.ca -1 points 12 hours ago

Except I couldn’t give a fuck about Nintendo games. Never played ‘em and probably won’t ever want to either.

[-] Cerborealis@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

You should give some of them a try. Nintendo is a shitty company sometimes, but some of their games speak for themselves - stuff like The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, Super Smash Bros Ultimate, Mario Kart 8 DX, Ring Fit Adventure, Super Metroid, Donkey Kong Country, Earthbound, etc. are all legendary for a reason.

I’ve gotten thousands of hours of play out of every Nintendo system I’ve ever owned (including the WiiU), because the games are just that damn good.

That said I love the Steam Deck as well, but it scratches a different itch. It has a much bigger library of awesome games, and it’s less restrictive than Nintendo’s walled garden approach to gaming.

TLDR; Steam Deck is great, but Switch 2 will be great as well. Gamers win with both choices.

[-] dyc3@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Idk if id include ring fit adventure in that list but yeah

[-] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 14 hours ago

The bigger trend is that enshitification of consoles have made steam a juggernaut.

$80 a game is a non starter for most people. Switch was a golden goose that revolutionized mobile handheld gaming. It was like a gameboy reboot. I doubt Switch 2 gets even close to half of the success

[-] yuri@pawb.social 6 points 16 hours ago

i’m blown away that the switch 2 is so beefy. nintendo has been the “lower spec consoles but AMAZING first party games” company for as long as i can remember.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 18 hours ago

my steam deck can play switch and nintendo games and steam games checkmate

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I'm just going to point out some things.

  1. The comparison comes from price point and the fact that both systems are handheld play anywhere systems with docking capability for couch play.

  2. There are already arguably better spec's handhelds in this category that would outperform both these systems, but the cost of them is largely a deciding factor and it comes with some tradeoffs that include OS (since these are windows only handhelds with the exception of the Legion Go S, meaning that if you don't want windows you have to go to the added trouble of installing something like Bazzite).

  3. We know that just about every handheld on the market has some tradeoffs. The Legion Go has a beautiful screen and joycon-like detachable controllers. But it's also heavier than the switch, and the steam deck and arguably less comfortable to hold for some. We know the the original ROG Ally had a bunch of problems including the fact that it would destroy its own SF card slot and potentially any SD card installed in it. It's newest iteration is great (lots of fixes, better GPU/CPU, larger SDD, better battery life, better ergonomics, fixed SD card slot etc), however it's also close to $1000. The Legion Go S had a different storage capacities depending on which OS you chose at launch. Even now there's different variants that give different performance at different price points (Z1 extreme vs Z2 Go). The Switch OG lacks emulation for a lot of newer games (Wii and DS games specifically). Those games are coming probably but they are available on other handhelds with just a little bit of extra work.

  4. Ease of play and ease of emulation are things people who aren't buying these devices to tinker want. So the Switch 2 wins there. Just buy the subscription and you can emulate quite a lot of their gaming library with more to come.

  5. Expecting a publication largely catering to the fans of Nintendo to offer up its competition as the better bargain for the money is just... Silly. It doesn't make sense.

The switch 2 doesn't add enough things to the table to make me want to spend $450+ to buy it. It's launch titles are not particularly compelling for me, and when you add their anti-emulation litigation to the pile and DCMA abuse, I just don't feel like it's something I'm currently willing to buy. On top of that there's lots of accessibility improvements I would love to see including joycon styles for 2D platformers that I clude a real D pad, GameCube style Joycons, or even just Joycons that would allow those with partial impairment or disability. There's a lot of unexplored territory for the design and execution of this product that doesn't include better graphics or being able to play cyberpunk 2077 and I think people forget that. Can you get such things on a steam deck? Yeah. Probably. But not natively docked to the system in handheld mode.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 74 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nintendo life is just being a bit insecure due to constantly hearing about it being a deck measuring contest.

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[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago

I don’t think these systems are comparable. They serve different markets.

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[-] said@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago

Switch 2 can't play decades of PC games, all which are accessible on Switch.

I think you meant "which are accessible on Steam Deck"

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

They can play by play all the they want but at the end of the day. I can play games I brought back in 1997 on my steam deck they can barely handle going back one generation to the switch and have to use emulation and a subscription service for a handful of their older systems.

I went from CD of star fleet academy i had in a storage box to a SD card to the steam deck. Installed and running the longest part was setting the key binds in steam input.

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[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago

When is the video game community going to understand there’s no such thing as “better”. The whole “this vs that” or “us vs them” just needs to stop.

[-] Trihilis@ani.social 1 points 14 hours ago

But how else are they going to convince simple minded people that can't do any critical thinking?

[-] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 15 hours ago

There's one objective metric: money.

PC games can be had for cheaper.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

Yes, we all know handhelds peaked with the DS (I am totally biased).

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

Nothing beats the DS Lite’s 15 hour battery life

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago

Before Steam Deck maybe.

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[-] miguel@fedia.io 40 points 1 day ago

You very politely missed the #1 point... I can already play every single nintendo game I've ever bought on my steamdeck. Right now. With no subscription, just simply uploading from my GBA/DS/3DS/Switch to my Steamdeck... Nintendo for reasons completely lost to me refuses to allow that. Like, wth are they even doing over there to not have solved that issue day 1 on the switch.

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[-] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

I literally purchased Rog Ally X as a response to how shitty switch 2 felt. I then installed Bazzite os on it.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago

Both systems have pros and cons. This article isn't bashing on the Steam Deck at all, just making the case for what the Switch 2 has going for it.

They say up front that this article is a response to the frankly obnoxious amount of "my gaming platform can beat up your gaming platform" circlejerking that has been going around - which you're kinda perpetuating.

The Deck does not "obliterate" the Switch 2, and a headline like that makes you part of the problem.

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 6 points 23 hours ago

The Deck does not "obliterate" the Switch 2

For me it does. But I know that's not objective fact. Just my subjective opinion.

The truth is, if what you want is "newest Nintendo games", well, the Switch 2 is amazing.

I adjusted my mindset on games years ago. There are lots of games that I'd love to play, but because they aren't on PC, I don't play them. Because I already have more games than I could ever play. Hype and FOMO are powerful drugs, ones that I'm not immune to. But I am at least resistant to them.

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