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Lemmy.world up to its same old bullshit (ponder.cat)

submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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So I posted to !nottheonion@lemmy.world:

Trump says Russia has shown willingness for peace by not taking over all of Ukraine, calls it 'pretty big concession'

Seems like a pretty good fit. It was the number 2 post for the day.

However, it was removed for being "Not Onion-y". What the fuck?

For one, yes, it is onion-y. For two, looking over the posts that are up there now, stuff that is "not onion-y" is more or less the majority of what's in the posts. The new number two story which replaced the one of mine that was removed was “Can ChatGPT experience joy or suffering? Does Gemini deserve human rights?” our tech columnist asks. “Many A.I. experts I know would say no, not yet, not even close. But I was intrigued.”, for example.

I wouldn't really care about the unreasonable removal of my article. Sometimes people just do bad moderation. Except:

Someone had come into the comments under my "not onion-y" post to do an unusually incompetent attempt at claiming the Ukraine war was all NATO's fault, and was getting unanimously roasted for it. Almost all of the comments were just laughing at this one guy, reiterating that Russia is in fact at fault in the war, and talking about the problem of Russian propaganda on Lemmy.
I have noticed before that almost every single one of the really bafflingly bad lemmy.world moderation decisions is in some way or other in service of propaganda.

Make of all of that what you will.

Edit: Made more concise

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[-] robocall@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Did lemmy.world admins remove the post? Or did a mod from nottheonion remove your post? The two actions are very different.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -2 points 2 weeks ago

Mods from nottheonion removed the article. My point in referencing lemmy.world as a whole wasn't really to blame the admins, but just to point out that the instance for whatever reason has a consistent pattern of just really remarkably terrible moderation.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Admins there suprisingly reasonable but the mods are reddit zealots with narratives to shill

[-] UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

YDI. Mods didn't think it was a good fit, and they removed it without any drama or personal stuff.

Not only that, but you have been very vocal about your distaste of .world in the past. So not sure why you'd decide to post there since you dislike how the mods there act. Then you come here to complain that they act exactly how you say they always act.

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe I don't understand the concept of notheonion (although I thought did), but I didn't really understand how most what you wrote aligns with the removal your article (which I think wasn't justified).

The LLM article in particular seems to fit with the nottheonion concept, no?

I am genuinely curious.

[1] also seems to be not particularly relevant w.r.t. the removal of your article? Dumb tankie who probably doesn't even speak russian making claims about russia and NATO, seems reasonable to tell the individual to GTFO, no?

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat -2 points 2 weeks ago

You may be right. I edited my post to remove a bunch of extraneous stuff and hopefully get to the point. Does it look a little more understandable now?

And yes it seems completely reasonable to roast the dumb tankie in this case. I was implying that maybe the actual reason for the deletion of the article, since "not onion-y" seems extremely farfetched as the reason, was to shut down the discussion of Russian propaganda and how to respond to it that was going on in the comments.

Maybe it sounds conspiratorial but I can't in any way wrap my head around "not onion-y" being the actual reason, and that's the only alternate explanation I can possibly conceive of.

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

As I mentioned I am not into the nottheonion community/concept, so maybe I don't know what I am talking about, but intuitively (for me) your line of thought does seem a bit conspirational. No disrespect, just sharing what's coming to my mind.

Maybe the mods thought that Trump's behaviour is already a norm, so there is a lack of comedy so to speak?

Btw, it's not my intention to defend the mods, never been to that community and it's not really my cup of tea.

I personally prefer a low touch approach to moderation, but I would also never mod a political community outside of some very specific cases.

[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 2 weeks ago

your line of thought does seem a bit conspirational

100%

It definitely feels farfetched, I can see that.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Someone had come into the comments under my "not onion-y" post to do an unusually incompetent attempt at claiming the Ukraine war was all NATO's fault

Feel free to post a screenshot (with their name removed) to https://lemmy.world/c/opisafuckingidiot

[-] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

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