198
submitted 1 year ago by yogthos@lemmygrad.ml to c/news@hexbear.net
all 18 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] indeed@hexbear.net 118 points 1 year ago

sounds like it's quite easy to find a neutral jury (hating insurance companies is a neutral opinion) but what they're really trying to do is find a biased one

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 117 points 1 year ago

"Neutrality" is such a bullshit term. The point of juries is to be representative of the people's moral sentiment, not to be a collection of morons who knows nothing about the world around them and safe unable to form opinions of their own.

It simply seems like normal people think Luigi took out a very evil man.

[-] Carl@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If we took jury representation seriously, every jury would be a randomly-selected representative example of the population, jury duty would be remunerated very well and there would be stuff like childcare for jurors in place, hell you shouldn't even need to spend gas to get to the courthouse the court should send a van to pick you up and feed you three hots while you're there.

Instead we've got a system where one of the best ways not to get picked is to show up to the court wearing glasses and reading a book while you're waiting because lawyers will see that, assume you're smart, and motion to get you removed from the jury pool.

[-] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They want the death penalty because a death-qualified jury means it's going to have a bunch of reactionaries.

A death qualified jury cannot have jurors on it that disagree with the death penalty morally.

In practice, instead of being judged by your peers it's a bunch of people selected so that they like harsh punishments.

That's what I learned when I posted my video to r/TrueAnon.

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

I hadn't thought of that really, that is fucked. Most reasonable people I know are opposed to the death penalty, so that does seem pretty effective for biasing the jury. But maybe they will get some that are like "of course I love the death penalty, that's what Luigi doled out and it was well deserved. Not guilty."

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Ironically even given that, people are less likely to be convicted when the death penalty is on the table, because people feel bad sentencing someone to death, even if they agree with it.

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago

“Neutral” is an interesting term to use to describe a minority opinion. Sounds like you’re actually trying to find an incredibly biased jury

[-] radio_free_asgarthr@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

It is important, when being selected for a jury, to lie and say that you like health insurance companies.

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

We can't find 12 people who hold a neutral opinion on blood sucking leeches who feast on them and their families.

[-] PKMKII@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

Why can’t we find a neutral jury for the murder of mecha-Hitler?

[-] D61@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago

I see nothing wrong with this.

[-] SpaceRanger13@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago

You would think something impacting so many people negatively would be seen as an assault on all the citizens. If only we had less greedy ceos and shareholders making ludicrous amounts of money, and more people trying to make things better for everyone.

[-] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

How tf are they unable to find 10 rich assholes in NYC?

[-] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

Those are the kinda people who never do jury duty

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

The defense would have to approve the jurors too. Most of New Yorkers are not rich and are progressive.

[-] bigbologna@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

They're just going to kill him

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago
this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2025
198 points (100.0% liked)

news

24740 readers
657 users here now

Welcome to c/news! We aim to foster a book-club type environment for discussion and critical analysis of the news. Our policy objectives are:

We ask community members to appreciate the uncertainty inherent in critical analysis of current events, the need to constantly learn, and take part in the community with humility. None of us are the One True Leftist, not even you, the reader.

Newcomm and Newsmega Rules:

The Hexbear Code of Conduct and Terms of Service apply here.

  1. Link titles: Please use informative link titles. Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed.

  2. Content warnings: Posts on the newscomm and top-level replies on the newsmega should use content warnings appropriately. Please be thoughtful about wording and triggers when describing awful things in post titles.

  3. Fake news: No fake news posts ever, including April 1st. Deliberate fake news posting is a bannable offense. If you mistakenly post fake news the mod team may ask you to delete/modify the post or we may delete it ourselves.

  4. Link sources: All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. If you are citing a Twitter post as news, please include the Xcancel.com (or another Nitter instance) or at least strip out identifier information from the twitter link. There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance, such as Libredirect or archive them as you would any other reactionary source.

  5. Archive sites: We highly encourage use of non-paywalled archive sites (i.e. archive.is, web.archive.org, ghostarchive.org) so that links are widely accessible to the community and so that reactionary sources don’t derive data/ad revenue from Hexbear users. If you see a link without an archive link, please archive it yourself and add it to the thread, ask the OP to fix it, or report to mods. Including text of articles in threads is welcome.

  6. Low effort material: Avoid memes/jokes/shitposts in newscomm posts and top-level replies to the newsmega. This kind of content is OK in post replies and in newsmega sub-threads. We encourage the community to balance their contribution of low effort material with effort posts, links to real news/analysis, and meaningful engagement with material posted in the community.

  7. American politics: Discussion and effort posts on the (potential) material impacts of American electoral politics is welcome, but the never-ending circus of American Politics© Brought to You by Mountain Dew™ is not welcome. This refers to polling, pundit reactions, electoral horse races, rumors of who might run, etc.

  8. Electoralism: Please try to avoid struggle sessions about the value of voting/taking part in the electoral system in the West. c/electoralism is right over there.

  9. AI Slop: Don't post AI generated content. Posts about AI race/chip wars/data centers are fine.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS