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[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

never understood this. If you can't buy it now will you be able to.pay later?! You need groceries every month

[-] deceased@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 week ago

If you're living paycheck to paycheck, it takes one unexpected expense and suddenly you're hustling to get food on the table. The cycle then repeats itself.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I've been there. It's expensive to be poor with little to no way out.

You need a car to work. Cars are expensive. You get a old clunker.
You work and live check to check. Maybe $50 or $100 left over after taxes and expenses. Not really possible to have an emergency fund.
A single injury or car breaking down and you need to borrow money. From family, friends or some shitty company.

Oh and then your yearly raise comes around at $1/hr that barely covers your rent increasing let alone inflation.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 23 points 1 week ago

Whoops some bill auto-drafted unexpectedly

Your account is negative now, oh and throw a $25 fee on top.

Looks like you're scrounging for dinner tonight. And the rest of the week. Maybe skip some meals because you have no choice.

Shit sucks ass.

[-] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

Getting a checking account with no overdraft fees is definitely a plus in those situations

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[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Peanut butter and bread it is!

Food banks are a godsend in these situations. Don't donate money. Find a local community center that offers assistance and donate foodstuffs. Things like rice, canned beans and mixed veggies are always welcome.

[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago

From what I understand food banks would rather your money than those nasty old cans in the back of the pantry

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Actually, yes. Donate what food you can, but I promise they have enough cans of beans, bags of rice, etc to last until Jesus comes. Especially because different areas have different people - one local pantry might just need a little bit of everything, while another one on the north side of your city needs a lot of vegetarian and halal options because of the people it serves in that area. Especially, donating money lets that food bank get things that aren't strictly necessary, but can make life that much more bearable - pastries, cookies, candy, snack foods, etc. Sure, it's not healthy and I can hear you all sighing from here, but imagine this is your sole source of food for the month. Having a package of shelf-stable Little Debbies or whatever can seriously make your day just a little more bearable, instead of going "oh boy beans and rice for the 23rd time this month."

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[-] veroxii@aussie.zone 17 points 1 week ago

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. ... But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socio-economic unfairness.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yep. This tracks.

My issue now with products is planned obsolescence. Any things aren't made to last like they used to. They also have extra technology in them making them harder to repair. Appliances, cars and more.

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cost of living is too high, put it on credit.

Your alternative is starve now.

Either way, this is about to get a lot more bonkers in roughly the next 30 to 60 days as Just In Time delivery... kinda just, stops working, and grocery stores will have to both raise prices and ration items per customer per week to deal with shortages and try to minimize in-store injuries and deaths.

Go look up a compilations of black friday shopping stampedes.

Imagine that, but for groceries, every time a grocery store restocks.... for the forseeable future.

[-] SpaceShort@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's probably part of why the capital class want fascism. Because if that happens in a democracy, they would have their capital expropriated.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Historically speaking, basically, yes, the capitalist class essentially always sides with a nascent fascist movement as it is opposed to making any truly meaningful concessions to workers.

But it is important to note that fascism is, or arises from... an ostensible capitalist democracy ... in decay.

It arises as a reaction to the over exploitation of the capitalists.

The fascists are always incompetent idiots at actually running anything, actual policy... beyond being brutally indimidating and violent bullies.

But! They promise growth and stability.

Morons believe them. Many of these morons... are the capitalists.

This works well for a while, but eventually, fascist mismanagement leads to the capitalists actually having a whole bunch of their businesses collapse, as the economy broadly suffers, or maybe its war time babyyyy and oh well turns out that its also bad to fund endless foreign invasions and/or be invaded yourself.

But, by then, its too late.

The capitalists sided with the fascists initially, to avoid structural concessions to workers... but now that everything is fucked, and/or dear leader / the party has some incomprehensible zany nonsense plan... well now the capitalists mostly get either outright or functionally nationalized, and lose even more than if they had just gone with the comparatively more minor concessions to workers.

Poison chalice.

Prisoner's Dilemma, game theoretic suboptimal outcome, that humanity just keeps replicating with minor variations and new flavors.

... Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was...

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[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can you elaborate on this? Just In Time delivery? Is this a US thing?

Edit: okay, I looked it up and I understand it now. The ripple effect already happened though when big box stores told Trump to fuck off with the tariffs, because their shelves are empty.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, put super simply:

Minimize needed actual storage space and time a thing spends in storage... by relying on very frequent and consistent logistics.

Its very efficient in the sense of minimizing operating costs...

But it is also extremely fragile, a minor perturbation can fuck shit up for weeks or months.

... And we are getting... well basically the most major disruption in the history of JIT as a logistics paradigm.

[-] hazeydreams@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Really thought we would have learned that JIT is a horrible strategy after covid... That was only a few years ago...

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

America follows Seinfeld rules:

No hugging.

No learning.

... Larry David is even writing poignant political satire pieces just right in the New York Times now!

There was an episode of Comedians in Cars like a decade ago now, Jerry just muses something like... God, is NYC just gonna be nothing but corporate coffee shops and banks?

Yes. Yep. That is what happened.

[-] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

If you are at the point where you are buying grocoeries in installments, who cares about paying it back. What good is a good credit score if you cant afford to buy anything anyways. Just survive any way you can at that point

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Then you've never been poor and living paycheck to paycheck.

There are times when it's either find a loan from someone or not eat for two weeks because something in your house broke and that's unfortunately a reality for many Americans including myself at one time.

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[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

Some people don't have the option, and end up relying on these services. It's similar to the payday loan trap. Being poor is expensive.

[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago

Capitalism isn't paying enough for workers to live off of and they system is papering over it with debt. Problem is debt isn't a sustainable way to do it since it has to get paid back. We've been seeing sketchier and sketchier things happening in finance and when these loans don't get repaid (and this article is a sign we're getting close) the whole house or cards comes tumbling down

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 59 points 1 week ago

I keep on wondering who the fuck has the money to be using things like grubhub. I realize its a non sequitor for this article but I really don't see how these businesses stay in business.

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Credit card debt is a pathway to many abilities some would consider unnatural

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

My neighbor gets everything delivered, but I have no clue what he or his wife do. If my spouse made the same as I do, we could afford to do all that delivery stuff. But it still makes no sense

[-] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 7 points 1 week ago

I have friends that talk about getting food delivered nearly daily, plus groceries and whatnot. I am so frugal it makes my asshole pucker to think about delivery fees PLUS them getting your order wrong so often PLUS the food is cold and takes way longer than simply driving there. And then in addition, we actually need the human contact. But I'm not gonna criticize my friends to their faces. Just here.

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[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago

Same. If my spouse made the same as me and did not have all the medical issues I guess I could but we would not. Likely would just live in a nicer place.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

People who don't really understand credit cards or have a cognitive disconnect between cost and value when fulfilling their sustenance need.

When people get hangry they don't make good choices.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago

Roaring 20's pt 2

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[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago

The people in power will soon come to realise we are all just 3 warm meals a day away from anarchy.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

What kind of psychopath has three warm meals a day? You cook three times a day? Or do you eat out three times a day? I believe the latter to be more crazy.
I do share the intended sentiment however.

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[-] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago

Literally what russians were doing while being loud on internet about how sanctions don't work. You can look foward to anti theft tags on bread soon.

[-] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago

And butter locked up

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

What about shaving items and deodorant?

....yup done already.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 22 points 1 week ago

Odd to think if you can't afford food now you could afford it later plus interest.

[-] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 40 points 1 week ago

Also odd to think people can put off eating until they have the proper funds.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

I am talking more about the people lending the money, not sure why they think this would be sound lending. People will do far worse then default on a loan to keep eating.

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[-] Laser@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

First off, I fully agree with you. But how people are lured in is that there is no interest if you pay on time, so it's advertised as interest-free. But obviously the business model is built upon people not paying on time, and as such one should calculate that cost into it…

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I get 5% cash back for using ny credit card to buy groceries. I use the card and pay it off every payday. Free money.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Those benefits are usually your own money + the money of those who fail to make payments since merchants have to increase their prices to compensate for credit card fees.

They indirectly steal from you, launder the funds and present it back to you as a "benefit", but only if you've been a good boy.

This is a similar principle to modern loyalty programs. In exchange for your personal information and your eyes (advertising), you get to pay slightly above the regular price and accumulate ✨points✨ while other schmos get a jacked up price that pays for your points (or the value of your points is built into the price of the items you purchase).

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago

Not exactly. Card benefits come directly from fees charged to merchants, which is why processing fees vary wildly from card to card and the merchant has no clue what their fees are going to be per transaction (though this is starting to change with services like Stripe charging a flat percentage+ transaction fee). Interest and the like are pure profit for CC companies. You as the cardholder receive the benefits even if you carry a balance.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes precisely, and merchants increase their prices to account for those unknown processing fees since it varies wildly from card to card.

If you carry a balance, you will pay interest, hence reducing the value of your rewards.

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[-] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The people who subsidize rewards are customers paying cash/debit.

The prices are higher to cover the Visa Infinite or whatever premium card merchant fees.

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Putting food on layaway?

So much winning /s

[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I grow a lot of my food in a fairly small space, and it's quite easy. There's also a community garden a few blocks away. Everything else is avoiding corporate supermarkets as they seem to have the worst quality at the highest price for meats, baked goods, etc. So I'm rarely doing a grocery shop and notice my money goes much slower.

If you're struggling to get groceries, assess your receipt and look for alternatives. Reducing spend while increasing quality is definitely a thing with staples.

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Steve Carrell: HEY... THERES A BUBBLE!

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