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[-] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 71 points 1 week ago

They were always here.

I escaped from the south to the coasts, but I always tried to warn people how vile the worst of us were.

Nobody coukd believe it, but remember, Hitler wrote about the south as the model for Germany in mein kampf, and the nazis copied the Nuremberg Laws from Jim crow almost verbatim.

[-] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

The also took inspiration from the Catholic Church and the inquisition. The Church did ethnic cleansing long bef the Nazis.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

The also took inspiration from the Catholic Church

Not just inspiration but also direct material support.

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[-] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 week ago

I already knew that there were plenty of awful people in the US since I studied the civil rights movement in school. Watching white people use fire hoses against Black people and white people being ok with that was a clue. For me the worst part has been watching my friends and family be brainwashed by the MAGA movement. People who I know to be otherwise wonderful people.

For me it's the answer to the zombie question. Do zombies have some part of their former personality still inside? The answer is definitely yes, and not some part, but 100% of their former selves.

I'll be talking to my Mom and she'll be her old self again for a whole conversation. Like the last decade never happened. Then something political will come up and she'll be gone again. And I'm stuck arguing with this zombie.

Fox News has taken multiple family members and I'm sure many more friends. Unlike zombies there was no attack or infection. The brainwashing happened through radio, television, and social media. And unlike zombies there is hope, because people do get out of cults.

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[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago

I'll never recover, personally. The way my world-view was shattered by how many not just nameless strangers, but people I actually know and interact with, are the worst sort of hateful monsters.

My world is a different place now, and I don't think I'll ever feel the same.

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[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago

It's also amazing just how incredibly tacky the MAGA movement is.

The Nazis were evil, but at least they wore clothing designed by Hugo Boss. At least they borrowed from impressive looking Roman-style banners and eagles. They understood how to use colour, light and so-on to project strength. Even if you acknowledge that the Nazis were evil, at least you can sort of understand why the German people were drawn in.

But the MAGA movement is so weak, so tacky. Even if I were somehow 100% aligned with their beliefs, I wouldn't want to associate with them in public because their whole aesthetic is so embarrassing. I can't understand how anybody can look at Trump and see competence, intelligence and strength. I also can't understand how anybody can look at a typical MAGA rally and see anything other than a design scheme that would make even Wal*Mart cringe.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Living in a southern state that is solid red - it’s just difficult to exist. Much more than half of the people I interact with would not view me as a human being if I weren’t stealth about my transness - if I didn’t pass. These people voted against my rights and safety. I’m surrounded by people who think people like me are subhuman.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

And I'll bet that every one of them calls themself a Christian. Fucking joke religion that doesn't even follow its own tenets.

[-] 4grams@awful.systems 20 points 1 week ago

Without a doubt this is the worst part. It was an immediate and irreversible swing from being an optimist who believes in the good of people to the complete opposite. I now believe humanity is fundamentally flawed and will destroy itself.

Watched too much Star Trek as a kid I guess.

[-] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I used to think similarly. The outright hatred, apathy, hostility... its sickening.

But I stand by Mr. Rogers' message. Look for the helpers.

Humanity has always grappled with its angels and demons. No fictional evil could ever compare to the cruelty and apathy of real humans being real shit. But despite all that, humans keep trying, and have always kept trying.

This isn't the worst it's ever been. This isn't even the worst it's been here. This isn't even the worst it's been, here, in living memory.

If you know someone over the age of 60, you know someone older than the civil rights act.

Even in a life where discrimination wasn't possible so much as it was fundamental in society, John Lewis and MLK Jr. still had faith in humanity. They still believed in its potential. They still had faith in the face of all of that hatred and ignorance. Faith that a better nation and a better future could be forged in their lifetimes.

And you know what? They were right.

Even today, with all of these threats to return to a time when America was "great"... even now, this is still a better nation than the America of 1963. That is undeniable truth, and it is in large part thanks to heroes like them.

If they could believe in the potential of humanity, I think it's arrogant of us to disagree.

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[-] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago

The big realisation, for me, was during Covid. I haven't recovered since. My view of people, in general, has changed forever.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago
[-] ContessaChaos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

She's damn sure old enough to know better. 😡

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She was probably doing it the first time too.

[-] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago
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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 16 points 1 week ago

You just know that guy on the left has a swastika tattoo somewhere on him.

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[-] seeigel@feddit.org 16 points 1 week ago

It is escapable. It's propaganda. Show them different news and they are communists.

The worst part of the Trump era is the realization of just how few people don't fall for the divide and conquer manipulation.

[-] archonet@lemy.lol 15 points 1 week ago

Hell truly is other people.

I like to look at it this way: There are not many bad people but weak people who fall for propaganda. The real bad people are just a few but those are the ones manipulating the weak.

[-] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Nah, a lot of people are cunts.

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[-] Soup@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I know a lot of people who are pissed off and struggling yet don’t blame minorities for their troubles while actively voting against their best interests at every possible turn. I also know people who, even if it took some time, realized that conservatism is actually fucking awful. I even know some conservatives who are just really stupid or bad at economic policy but who are genuinely good people(so long as he can see you or even just hear that you’re a friend of someone he knows my dad will give you his shirt, and he doesn’t have ill-intentions towards minorities, for example).

Trump people are just fucking terrible. Their entire “ideology” is so rooted in being terrible that even if they were just weak morons sweat away by the propaganda I still cannot fathom how they weren’t tipped off by any of the thousands of moments which gave them the opportunity to reflect.

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[-] drcabbage@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

Too weak to have any morals? I doubt it. They are just given permission to let their inner racism out.

[-] rivan@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

That's too easy and excuses us from the work needed to rescue these people, content in our own moral superiority.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

The best advice I can give to anyone regarding MAGAts is to take advantage of them.

They're letting us know how stupid they are. They're marking themselves.

So take advantage of them. Run some scams on them. They'll fall for it. Don't let Daddy Trump be the only one robbing them blind.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It didn't take Trump to make this real for me.

I remember how our country treated Muslims after 9/11. I remember how we treated people with AIDS and HIV when I was little. Right now I'm watching Nazi salutes on national TV and no one's getting punched even though the room is packed with the supposed opposition, and the people who consider themselves progressive are unironically enjoying people's families inability to afford food staples.

[-] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago

Yeah, the aftermath of 9/11 was shocking to me as well and, in many cases, deplorable. The use of the terms "sand n-word" and things like "rag-head" were flying around all over (at least in my part of Ohio), Sikhs and others were getting targeted by racists, and the whole thing was such a surreal time.

The small town I grew up in did have a fair amount of anti-semitism (uncool things were referred to by some as "that's Jewish") and I'm sure I heard slurs around that as well. I didn't expect the big, farther-left cities to descend into that.

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[-] jimjam5@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Dang, looks like that one guy on the left got a “TRUMP” tat on his NECK. I’m sure he won’t have any ragrets down the road.

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[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

One of the good things about living in the bay area is seeing these people on TV, it's like seeing an NPC in a video game. It's hard to believe they are real. The 1st time I saw an IRL maga hat was 2020, and I'm pretty sure it was a tourist at the beach I had to point and laugh. The 2nd time was last month, and I gave that bitch the bird. She was wearing the cringe ass Elon Dark Gothic Maga hat.

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

The guy with the Trump tatoo looks like the typical guy who gets a 23&ME saying he's actually part Mexican.

[-] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

I think it's about time that the progressives start pandering to the dumbass class. Promising to do all sorts of dumbass and unconstitutional things and then supporting actual progressive policy when they get into office.

If this worked for the current Manchurian dumbass candidate - progressives can surely get their deception game in order.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

When I examine my German family tree, this is the kind of shit they fell for too. The only difference, the USA had a healthy economy before Jan 2025, while Germany was a wreck.

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[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

Face flag looks like a fun bar guy though. Maybe he's just stupid?

[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

THAT has been the most demoralizing part

That half of my fellow Americans willingly embraced Nazi Fascism

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't understand how the US is so prop-full of hateful, ignorant, angry people. Is it because of all the lead they ingested towards the end of the 20th century?

[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Its because conservatives have actively meddled in the educational system, and kept kids from learning and practicing Critical Thinking Skills. At the same time, they used the vast Conservative Propaganda Machine to teach people to rely on Faith-Based Thinking, where they believe whatever they are told, no matter how absurd or outlandish, as long as it comes from someone in authority, such as a radio/tv talk show host, a politician, a preacher, a cop, a boss, etc.

Thats why they went so hard after evangelicals. They have already proven that they will build their entire lives around the most bizarre mythology and fairy tales written by neolithic goatherders, so all they had to do was get them to accept their political fairy tales, too.

Critical Thinking Skills are the most important part of any person's education, and Conservatives have actively suppressed it. That's why the Department of Education has always been one of their worst enemies. The 'liberal indoctrination" they are always screaming about are Critical Thinking Skills.

[-] daskye@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago

Look around the world... It's not just the US, the US are just a big example of it

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