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submitted 3 days ago by Zerush@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml

Certainly the Blacklight test show that Microsoft EU respect way more the privacy (forced by law) than Microsoft US.

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[-] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 17 points 2 days ago

We recognize that our business is critically dependent on sustaining the trust of customers, countries, and governments across Europe. We respect European values, comply with European laws, and actively defend Europe's cybersecurity. Our support for Europe has always been – and always will be – steadfast.

None of that matters, since they still have to comply to American laws, which means they have to give access to European data if the US government requests it.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

Wrong, MS EU have to comply EU GDPR laws, yes or yes. They have learned it after several high fines, like also Facebook and Google, even X planned in the past to stop the service in the EU because of this. They can't send userdata to third countries without the express consent of the user. Privacy in the EU is an human right protected by law. MS is scared with a reason.

[-] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 7 points 2 days ago

If you want to be pedantic about it - if the NSA, or any such agency demands to place a [backdoor of any sort] in an American company's datacenter, they have to comply.

So, no, they (meta, Google, etc) won't be handing over the data knowingly. But those devices placed there for sure aren't running Minecraft servers.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Also in the EU, security agencies and the police can have access to individual accounts, but only in the case of an criminal investigation and only with an court order. Even very privacy oriented services and apps have to give access to the data they have, in this case. But this, if these data are encrypted, there is few what the authorities can do, then they have to contact the user directly to obtain the encryption key, or trying through weeks to crack it. But all this has nothing to do with privacy, it's not the same as sharing freely user datas to third party advertising companies, like it is possible in the US, in the EU it's only alowed in a very limited way to share statistical, anonymised and tech data.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

to contact the user directly to obtain the encryption key,

Or getting a house search warrant.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Only if that data centre is located on US soil.

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

...or if any critical part of the data processing happens in US soil...

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago
[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 74 points 3 days ago

Data sovereignty is going to be key to maintaining any sovereignity going forward, it's so vital to the function of society and the economy that outsourcing it to another country is just giving part of yourself away.

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[-] Sibshops@lemm.ee 56 points 3 days ago

Seems like a natural response of Europe to Trump's policies. I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised.

[-] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 7 points 2 days ago

It's kinda like good guy Hitler, because he killed Hitler.

Trump's major achievement might be that the rest of the world starts relying less on the US.

[-] ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 40 points 3 days ago

Blame the right wing you rich corporations empowered with your self destructive lobbying and weakening of regulation. You and your billionaire counterparts’ push to the right has broken down the very order that brought you the wealth and stability that centered world markets on the U.S. Your reckless pursuit of endless growth will kill the world order that created America’s prosperity. These corporation drank too much of their own Kool-aid.

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[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

"We will store backup copies of our code in a secure repository in Switzerland, and we will provide our European partners with the legal rights needed to access and use this code if needed for this purpose."

If Microsoft is going to actually risk giving access to their source code then they’re really scared!

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

And maybe they figure EU leaders aren't smart enough to ask for reproducible builds.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

That's SOP for government contracts. The US government, and others, have had access in the past. NDA blah blah blah.

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It sounds like this would be expanding that to a lot more commercial customers, though?

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 8 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure that they already shared it with copilot, so I'm guessing that it's only a matter of time until everyone has a copy..

[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago

Microsoft should be getting worried about Linux.

Tbh no not really, as long a OEMs either dont ship Linux at all or only niche OEMs do (or major OEMs on a small subset of their products) Linux will be a niche. The European Market still relies on American OEMs which means they have been cornered by Microsoft.

[-] josefo@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago

Some brands are starting to ship without windows already and are announcing it loud and clear. Lenovo made the news this week

Yes, on a smallsubset of their laptops. Not even half of their products will have the option to ship without Windows (and none of their products that they put on third party retailers such as Amazon or Best Buy so you will have to use their website just to know they exist).

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I would think the Chinese government switching all government PCs and servers to KylinOS by 2026, would be weighing on all US tech companies.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

literally the year of the linux desktop

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

Good, fuck microsoft.

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