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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by nutomic@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

This site is currently struggling to handle the amount of new users. I have already upgraded the server, but it will go down regardless if half of Reddit tries to join.

However Lemmy is federated software, meaning you can interact seamlessly with communities on other instances like beehaw.org or lemmy.one. The documentation explains in more detail how this works. Use the instance list to find one where you can register. Then use the Community Browser to find interesting communities. Paste the community url into the search field to follow it.

You can help other Reddit refugees by inviting them to the same Lemmy instance where you joined. This way we can spread the load across many different servers. And users with similar interests will end up together on the same instances. Others on the same instance can also automatically see posts from all the communities that you follow.

Edit: If you moderate a large subreddit, do not link your users directly to lemmy.ml in your announcements. That way the server will only go down sooner.

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[-] bilb@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I'm going to set up a general purpose instance tomorrow with the intention of handling a relatively large number of users. The main problem is choosing a domain!

[-] Nicarlo@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I was also contemplating setting up a new instance for this. I have 100s of gigs of unused ram, CPUs on idle and a 10gbit connection looking for something to do. The only issue I couldn't figure out was the name. I own itjust.works was thinking of something clever subdomain to use with it. I'm glad I'm not the only one with this issue

[-] autisticaudioguy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Nicarlo@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I did it! https://sh.itjust.works

Credits go to you for the naming

[-] autisticaudioguy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Lol awesomesauce. I just made an account, I'll use it as my main instance for a while. Let's hope we can survive reddit hug of death 2.0 in July!

[-] Xer0@mastodon.social 1 points 1 year ago

@autisticaudioguy lol same, just signed up today.

[-] seirim@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Dude killer url, nice one! Question for all, I clicked their link and went there and it’s an instance, surely. I tried to comment on their post, but was required to sign in.. I’m already signed in over here, I gotta sign in there, too? Anyhow I tried to sign in with my lemmy.ml creds but that didn’t work. How can I interact with posts there?

[-] Nicarlo@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

This is a great one! Might use it

[-] therealfooza@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Keep it simple with lemmy.itjust.works.

If you get this going or need a hand then let me know.

[-] 7eter@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

can't wait for fedd.itjust.works to go online!

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[-] bilb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's a week later, but I did get this done finally. I've set up https://lem.monster/ . Still doing some tweaking, but it's open.

[-] TerrorBite@meow.social 1 points 1 year ago

Naming things is one of the two most difficult issues in IT, alongside cache validation and off-by-one errors.

[-] snowe@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

choosing the name for my instance was easy. programming related? programming.dev it is!

[-] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm getting the following error reading this post: "item at index 2 does not exist"

Should I post this on stack overflow or some other Lemmy help community?

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Which frontend are you using?

[-] ibcj@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

There are only two hard things in CS: naming things, caching, and off-by-one errors.

[-] TerrorBite@meow.social 1 points 1 year ago
[-] ibcj@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Look at that, you sure did. I missed the “two hard things”. Wasn’t even drunk. 🤷

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[-] jarwinder@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

is it possible to move an existing profile to a new server, like on Mastodon? or I need to create a new one and "start over"?

[-] Barbarian@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right now, there is no import/export. It's a known useful feature, but the devs have no time to work on it (I've been following all the optimization work they've been doing on github, I don't know if they sleep). You'll have to start over atm, sorry.

[-] aksdb@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I think lemmy will be bitten in the ass by not having considered clustering/horizontal scaling from the start. Federation alone as a scaling mechanism is only feasible for "nerds". But if the network wants to grow, we will need a few scale-able large hosted instances. And if their only choice is to scale vertically, there will be a hard limit (unless we put a good old Mainframe somewhere ^^).

Another downside of this design is: you can't run it with high availability. If there's only one process per instance, updating it will mean the whole instance is down. Sure, if all goes well this downtime is under a second. But if it doesn't go well or if a migration is needed, this might quickly become hours.

[-] federico3@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Indeed. If a big instance like lemmy.ml was to be shut down all the communities would be lost. This is simply not sustainable. Why would users put effort building a community if it could be gone at any time?

[-] aksdb@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

That however would be a different problem. A horizontally scaled instance would be able to cope with more users, but if it shuts down for monetary, personal, or whatever reason, it's still down.

Protecting a community from this is what the decentralized part is for. That is already in place.

(Although there is a middle ground where you could design the system in a way that one instance is mirrored and load-balanced across different hosters. That would actually also be quite interesting to have. But that's another layer of complexity on top.)

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@nutomic@lemmy.ml It might be a good idea to default the Communities page to All instead of Local, to help push users into discovering other instances and promote them.

[-] lightrush@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Point us to where the coin slot is. E.g. Patreon. We insert coin 🪙, you upgrade.

[-] TheYang@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is scaling the server a largely financial issue, or not? @nutomic@lemmy.ml

could you reasonably confidently say that you could 10x the amount of users for something like 1000$/mo on liberapay?
If so, would you mind setting a "goalpost" for the community to help lift the financial burden?

[-] 777@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know what happened but in the last half hour the website has become highly responsive again. Thank you admins for your hard work.

[-] ionhowto@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I use kbin too.

New to this feedverse or how you call it.

Why isn't there one login that can post on all platforms and I have to signup on each separately?

If there is, you're not making it obvious I guess.

[-] anders@rytter.me 1 points 1 year ago

@nutomic @ionhowto you dont have to sign up on multiple instances. if you want to comment a post on another instance, copy the url and paste in into the search field and then your current instance will fetch the post so you can comment on it.

[-] anders@rytter.me 1 points 1 year ago

@nutomic lemmy.world is a new instance which can also be used.

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

lemmy.ml should be a roundrobin dns that sends you to a random instance in the pool. Or else you will re-centralize lemmy and curmble under the IT bill.

[-] Neil@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Except (as far as I'm aware) your account only exists on one instance. So, if I end up on beehaw.org due to the round-robin, my account on lemmy.ml will not authenticate to that instance. I would have to have a separate account per instance which is hundreds of accounts.

[-] zeerooth@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I've made https://lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz/ to help take off some of that load. New registrations are welcomed and it should be maintained for a very very long time 🎂

[-] cosmicsploogedrizzle@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Can I login to another instance with my lemmy.ml account? Or do I need multiple accounts?

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

An account on a given instance only lets you log on to that instance. You can use that account to interact with people from other instances, however.

[-] hbar@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Hi, as one of the new people, is there a way to transfer to another instance or would I have to create a new account there?

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

You have to create a new account. But that's easy ;)

[-] jarfil@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

That's kind of wrong though, isn't it? What about stuff like GDPR data exports? Users should be able to export their data, then import it into another instance, effectively migrating instances.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

You are free to learn to program and write a user import routine for lemmy: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy

[-] jarfil@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I know how to program, I also know how to wonder how many instances are running off the docker-compose with publicly exposed postgres... that would make import/export really easy, wouldn't it? 🙄

Anyway, would you say this isn't the right place to discuss this stuff?

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Why would this be not the right place?

[-] cecirdr@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm a noob. I created an account on beehaw and on lemmy.ml. That's because I see communities on one instance that I'm interested in and a different community on another instance. So if there's a technology community on both, how do I get to see all the technology posts without having to have two accounts?

This is really confusing for noobs like me. I'd just like to see one community to technology, one for Science, one for nintendo etc. I don't care it it's spread out amongst different servers to divvy up the load, but from the user side, it needs to be seamlessly integrated.

I'm still learning how all this works though. But I don't know how many folks that are more casual than me will be willing to figure it out. I hope they do though! It'll be worth it to leave reddit in the rearview mirror!

Edit: lawdy, I just figured it out. Local vs all on the communities list. It was right in front of my face. good grief!

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[-] d3Xt3r@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Edit: If you moderate a large subreddit, do not link your users directly to lemmy.ml in your announcements

How/which URL should we link to then? Now is the best time to get users to switch to Lemmy so we need to make it as newbie friendly as possible. Already the application process has put off some people (I do like that bit though, keeps away the low effort folks). Thanks.

[-] jonah@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

How/which URL should we link to then?

My (somewhat) hot take is that large migrating subreddits should probably host their own communities, which is what we did when we told people on r/PrivacyGuides to move to Lemmy. Or at the very least, actually coordinate with instance admins beforehand about all of this, clearly lemmy.ml isn't the ideal choice for this situation.

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