I can finally have a couple months off from stressing over our politics because we reelected the competent side.
Ah yes because the ALP have been so competent the last 3 years, haven’t they? No, they’ve been a complete shitshow.
The LNP are a shitshow too, and Dutton deserved to be nowhere near being prime minister, but let’s not sugar coat it - Labor have run the country into the ground. Can you name a single thing that has improved over the last 3 years?
Isn't declining culture war ideology a positive thing? Australia has a strong sense of community and identity politics destroys that
Australia has a strong sense of community? That's being eroded every day. Our sense of community is being taken away in favour of "multiculturalism" and making sure every immigrants cultures and religions are respected, at the expense of our own identity and community.
Why would you prefer LNP when they were the ones who introduced more immigration?
Neither the ALP or LNP are prepared to do what needs to be done in terms of immigration. I didn't vote for the ALP or LNP.
If your preferred party didn't get any seats, you voted for the ALP or LNP.
I know how voting works. What point were you trying to make?
Because you said you didn't vote for either, but all votes typically end up going to one or the other.
But what do you want done about immigration? Is it only immigration?
I said that because I didn’t. Where the preferences end up flowing is irrelevant. You’re essentially saying that everyone votes for the ALP or LNP which is a ridiculous way of thinking.
What do I want done about immigration? Pause it. Completely. We don’t have enough houses for the people we already have.
No it’s not only immigration.
So what about the current immigration? The ones already here
What does that mean for the medical field, transportation, and cleaning? Immigrants are currently holding together all of these industries.
Is it just immigration from Asia or are we cool with immigration from America and Europe?
Current immigrants? Nothing unless they’re here illegally. Don’t extend any visas. Deport people who are caught overstaying their visa.
What does it mean for those industries? They can hire people that are still here. Those fields aren’t held together by immigrants lol. You’re just eating up the lies about “we need more skilled immigrants!”
No, we’re not cool with immigration from America or Europe. What’s hard to understand about this? Pause all immigration until we can get our shit together with the people we already have. You were trying to do a “Gotcha! You’re racist!” thinking that I only wanted to stop “brown people” from coming here, weren’t you? Sorry to disappoint.
It’s clear that our economy and infrastructure and everything else just can’t handle the amount of people we have. Realistically we need a few million population decrease - at least 5 million - in order to dig ourselves out of this situation. Instead Labor (and the LNP to a slightly lower extent) want to keep importing people so they get more tax and can make it look like the economy is flourishing.
No visa extensions? That's going to cause economic chaos, dude! Immigrants are a money-maker, removing them is just going to hit our ecnonomy. :(
What does it mean for those industries? They can hire people that are still here. Those fields aren’t held together by immigrants lol. You’re just eating up the lies about “we need more skilled immigrants!”
Yes, they are. If we can't even conclude that fact then there's nothing that can convince ya.
You were trying to do a “Gotcha! You’re racist!” thinking that I only wanted to stop “brown people” from coming here, weren’t you?
It's not racist to want fewer immigrants from certain countries. Some countries and cultures aren't entirely compatible.
Realistically we need a few million population decrease - at least 5 million - in order to dig ourselves out of this situation. Instead Labor (and the LNP to a slightly lower extent) want to keep importing people so they get more tax and can make it look like the economy is flourishing.
Labor's brought in fewer immigrants than the LNP has. And removing five million? That's insane. How's that improve the economy?
You're also implying that I'm pro-immigration, I'm not. We have too many, but that's because we used immigration to hold up Australia after Covid. Now we're in a tough spot where we need to remove them, but can't risk it economically.
We NEED a recession. We NEED deflation. We need to get out entire economy back under control, and the more immigrants we bring in the worse it’s going to get. The solution to the population being too poor to have bulk excess cash to spend isn’t to import more people to bring their money with them, increasing inflation and the cost of living and housing crises.
If we stop importing people the population growth stops so we don’t have to keep importing all these supposed invaluable doctors and cleaners. It could even encourage people here to take up those professions.
I want to stop all immigration now, temporarily, and then when it’s viable bring it back in a more controlled way - and yes, that would include things like how likely people are to actually integrate into our culture and way of life.
Labor’s brought in fewer immigrants than the LNP has
Not lately they haven’t. Not since Covid. But again - I’m not saying LNP are the immigration stopping saviours. Like everything else this election cycle, they had a slam dunk and they bricked it in regards to immigration.
Our country can’t sustain this level of population, as we’re seeing. Homelessness, out of control cost of living, out of control house prices, etc etc. We shouldn’t be thinking of the economy first and foremost, that’s what got us here in the first place - the desire to always show a nice GDP growth above all else, even when real wages have gone backwards and everything people need is getting further and further out of reach.
We need a “great reset” of almost everything, including the economy. There’s just no way back from the damage Covid caused and the way the governments fucked it up in the aftermath. Wages across the board need to increase about 40% - for everyone - just to get back to pre-covid affordability for basic cost of living. That’s not happening, inflation is still making prices rise, as is higher energy costs, so people are falling further and further behind.
You're talking absolute nonsense, dude. There's no such thing as resetting the economy.
That is what you respond with? You just ignore what I meant by “reset”? Recessions aren’t things? Deflation isn’t a thing?
Min wage went, billions in affordable housing investments, GP visits being bulk billed all seem pretty nice. Theres plenty more but I don't remember them off the top of my head.
Min wage going up a tiny bit is negated by the 30%+ inflation from the current governments term.
What “affordable housing”? The one where not a single house was actually built?
GP visits being bulk billed? Almost every GP visit now costs you money out of pocket, even the ones that bulk bill.
sure would be nice if there weren’t 2 major conflicts, recovering from the pandemic, and numerous other things that cause cost of living crisis and other things that every other country on earth is also going through
what’s that i hear? is that the sound of the IMF having ranked us 2nd best in the world for budget balance…
shit mate, maybe you’re repeating half truths and FUD from sky news
A trillion dollars of debt we’ll be at soon. Our power bills have tripled thanks to the ALPs energy plan. Our “100% renewables” energy plan is going to cost us another trillion or so, probably more. Our housing crisis has been fuelled by mass immigration at levels never seen before - all under labor’s watch.
Labor have been a shitshow for the country in every way. The only good thing they’ve done is kept Dutton out.
Are these guys Labour like the UK's Labour (basically a centre-right wing party in disguise these days), or are they legitimately a left-wing pro socialist workers rights party, like Labour should be?
If the latter, good for them! They deserve good things over there.
Australia's politics are weird. Our 'liberal' party is the conservative one. Our 'nationals' party is meant to represent the people in rural communities, but are somehow more corrupt and full of shit than the 'liberals'. Our 'labor' party has literally never given birth, and nobody in 'The Greens' is actually green. Needless to say, Australia is weird.
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