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submitted 2 weeks ago by tfm@europe.pub to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/372863

cross-posted from: https://metawire.eu/post/61363

The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.

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[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 69 points 2 weeks ago

The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.

It's a good start but we gotta pump those numbers up.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 weeks ago

The rest are bots and Russian troll farms.

[-] arakhis_@feddit.org 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

remember 80% of instagram is bots according to a study reported by german media.

so X id even say it could be more giving the vast hatred increase and content change over the last years. so basically they lost 90%

EDIT/additional bit: funk's german post referenced this Imperva Bad Bot Report 2024

[-] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 weeks ago

They're all going to bluesky because for some reason as soon as social media gets involved, the wonderful human ability to pattern match just gets switched off.

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For most people it's unfortunately just "is it like Twitter" - both in terms of accessibility and algorithmic content suggestion.

[-] DriftingLynx@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think a sad part of this is due to people wanting that vapid dopamagic response the algorithm provides.

Is it bad for us? Yes.

But addicts are going to addict 🫤

I know lots of people who made a fediverse account easy enough, but just end up back on the algorithm platforms as there's no effort required for discovery.

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[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Except for the fact that most people dont like jumping through multiple hoops to register an account / need to do research beforehand to do it.

[-] CapriciousDay@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

If you Google "sign up for mastodon" the first result you get is a sign-up page for mastodon.social which is the default instance. The sign up page is straight forward. I get we're all coddled by iPads or whatever but this argument evades me.

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[-] Wimster@europe.pub 41 points 2 weeks ago

Don't go to BlueSky !!! They're not better than X. They obey to the same leaders... MONEY, GREED, AND POWER. A few weeks ago they restricted 72 Turkish protesters the access to their BlueSky accounts on simple request of the Turkish Government. So, BlueSky cannot be trusted they will secure the accounts of their customers. If Trump would ask BlueSky to block all accounts of members who are against him, they'll do it right away.

https://www.turkishminute.com/2025/04/17/bluesky-restrict-access-72-account-turk-amid-government-pressure7/

[-] Muyal@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Make mastodon more accessible then.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Which accessibility standards does Mastodon break?

[-] Muyal@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

Oh boy, where do I even begin:

  1. Federation. People have no idea what it is, which means that they have to familiarize themselves with all these technical concepts just to create an account.

  2. Servers. Most mastodon servers are locked, and you have to petition the admins to let you in, which often implies waiting more than a day. In other sites, you can create an account in 5 seconds, so mastodon is at a disadvantage.

  3. Lack of an algorithm. This implies people won't see the content they like, which means they have to go and actively look for content. Most people don't want to spend time doing that, they just want to log in, laugh at funny memes ans look at pretty pictures.

[-] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 weeks ago

3 is a feature to me. The "algorithms" seem to create bubbles, and I want to decide myself.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

and bluesky doesn’t have a default algorithm either, but allows you to subscribe to algorithms created by other people

being able to choose how the information is presented is the way

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[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

BlueSky may not be ideal, but anything is better than X.

X is just a machine for turning billionaire cash into political domination.

[-] untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago

bluesky is just early twitter, and it wont stay that way for long. they've already removed people from there that the Turkish govt doesn't like and there is nothing at all stopping some billionaire like musk from swooping in and buying it all up.

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Fedi is doing fine whether or not Nazi platforms crumble.

[-] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 28 points 2 weeks ago

It's not just X; American social media has been gradually turning into such a shit show for the last 10 years: censorship, misinformation, consensus manufacture and creeping enshitification. I jumped ship to the fediverse and never looked back!

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 26 points 2 weeks ago

Let me guess, they're moving to Bluesky?

[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 16 points 2 weeks ago

I tried moving to Mastadon first a few years ago and it was a pretty shit experience, Bluesky however has stuck in my app rotation pretty well.

[-] excral@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

General advice regarding open source: even if you tried something out years ago and didn't like it, it may be well worth giving it another shot. Open source projects often need some time to mature and take their time to improve, but only get better over time.

[-] moopet@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Which is incidentally the opposite of proprietary products, where if you give it another go in a few years it either doesn't exist or is enshittified.

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[-] tfm@europe.pub 8 points 2 weeks ago

That's were the marketing dollars are

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[-] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 week ago

Just a reminder that politico is owned by the Axel Springer group which is a real force of bad for Germany and Europe. Their media campaigns often try to push the public opinion in a right wing conservative direction.

Their biggest shareholder (35%) is KKR (an American global private-equity and investment company) that use the might of the media group to sway the public opinion against climate friendly actions/policies.

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[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

Abandon anything this Nazi touches.

[-] logos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

I forgot that people are still using Twitter. WTF!?

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[-] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 13 points 1 week ago

Biggest problem with twitter/X is so many companies mess you around until you call them out on it, then things tend to get resolved how they should have been.

I truthfully have always seen that as Twitter/X's only use

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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of our biggest communities still have like two mods taking care of everything and are prone to cherry picking. It‘s the same old forum structures where the internet bubble effect is just as strong if not stronger than on larger, already problematic platforms. Some of the things I‘ve seen and experienced lately bring back memories from those internet forum days. Good ones but also the worst ones. And I have to admit it makes me doubt the Fediverse is actually scalable. There‘s just a lack of accountability in the end.

Which is not to say a federalized platform isn‘t an alternative to giant corporations. Those have their own problems and fair share of fuck ups. But I think I‘m already starting to see the limits of the Fediverse. At least in it‘s current stage.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 16 points 2 weeks ago

The fediverse is much more than just lemmy. That being said i also disagree for lemmy. Drama between mods and communities was a regular thing on reddit. Still reddit managed to grow quite big before the bots took over. And companies are in no way more accountable to the users. Look at what happened with twitter under Musk. The only realistic choice you have as a normal user is to leave. And in the fediverse leaving a shitty instance still allows you to connect with all the other content from a different instance.

[-] eta@feddit.org 14 points 2 weeks ago

The fediverse is about options. If you don't like how someone else runs their platform or community you can create your own. It's awesome because you don't get locked into one platform. And in the future I think we will see more big companies and organisations running their own stuff. But I agree that at the moment it is not what "normal people" are looking for and it will take quite some time until it develops. But to be fair the same was the case for reddit.

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[-] b3an@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Couldn’t happen to a nicer piece of shit.

[-] vaguerant@fedia.io 9 points 2 weeks ago

What's the quality like of the people who are still on Twitter in 2025? Does the fediverse want them? (These are real questions, I have no idea if there's still any decent people on Twitter.)

[-] ThorrJo@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

Every massive influx from Twitter has brought a deluge of people I want nothing to do with in any way shape or form, and a small sprinkling of cool ones. Fortunately like 4/5ths of the crappy ones leave again, but that other 1/5th is a big number when you're talking an influx of hundreds of thousands.

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[-] arakhis_@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

remember 80% of instagram is bots according to a study reported by german media.

so X id even say it could be more giving the vast hatred increase and content change over the last years. so basically they lost 90%%

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

It is humanities responsibility to make the rest of this man’s life miserable

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Europeans don't like Nazis.

Americans, well...

[-] tfm@europe.pub 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Europeans don't like Nazis.

I wish this was true.

Greetings from Austria, where a far right party is the strongest, although not ruling (yet)

[-] nuko147@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago

AfD Is Now Germany’s Most Popular Party For The First Time Ever.

I wish the 'Europeans don’t like Nazis.', would be true, but we maybe just lagging behind.

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