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[-] Lexam@lemmy.world 109 points 1 month ago

Love my Brother black and white laser printer.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It is important to point out that it isn't the brand that makes it good, it is the fact that it is laser.

I used to have a Brother "multi function center" printer/scanner/photocopier/fax that used inkjet and it was pure asshole design. Wasting expensive ink just by remaining plugged in and refusing to do anything if one cartridge was low on ink (but was actually still half full)

But if I had to single out a brand that should absolutely be avoided for printers it is HP. They do asshole DRM to a whole new level. They bricked a brand new ink cartridge because I didn't put it in properly at first.

Now I have a laser printer and the nightmare is finally over.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

With my old brother inkjet, it would say it was out of ink in like 2 weeks because it used an optical sensor on the printer looking through a window on the ink cartridge at aimed at a floating piece of black plastic in the tank that would drop when the ink level went down.

The thing is, the sponge in the cartridge would soak up the ink and cause the floater to drop when there was still like 90% of the ink left.

So the key was to just put some black electrical tape over the window on the cartridge and keep using it until it actually stopped printing that color.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

This is exactly what my Brother MFC did and I also put some tape on the window to extend the cartridge life. The problem is that it still went through "cleaning cycles" every few days, in which it will dump a bunch of ink into a big sponge hidden inside the printer (I took it apart after it broke). It will eventually run out ink even if you don't use it because of that. And if you keep it unplugged to stop it from doing that it will eventually dry up and clog up. Even worse, if you leave it plugged in with tape on the cartridges and it tries to print with an actually empty cartridge, it will burn the printer head.

The absolute worst part is that you have zero control over when it did those cycles in which it would make all sorts of loud clunking and whirring noises and if it detected that an ink cartridge was low it would also beep loudly. It was in my bedroom at that time and it would wake me up in the middle of the night every time. I don't care what people say about this company, I will never buy anything from it again.

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[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

I have a Canon laserjet that absolutely sucks and a Brother inkjet that works great. Both were about the same price (the Brother can do 11x17) and were top recommendations from a bunch of sources. Unfortunately I think buying a printer at this point is just a crapshoot of whether it'll actually be good.

[-] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Huh, our canon works great. Even lets me ignore the low toner warnings.

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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago

All inkjet printers have to waste ink when they are not in use. Otherwise the ink in the print head dries out and clogs it up. Inkjet printers are the worst possible choice for infrequent use.

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[-] egrets@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago
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[-] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 month ago

Nah. Brother inkjets were the inky ones that didn't require chips on the inktanks. Don't know how it is nowadays but they were the only company that didn't make everything shitty.

We now have a brother color laser and it's a godsend.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My Brother inkjet printer didn't have electronic DRM on their cartridges, but it would still waste a ton of ink through periodic "cleaning cycles" (in which it dumps a bunch of ink into a sponge hidden inside the printer) and would declare a half-full cartridge "empty" unless you put electrical tape on the sensor window. Even if I didn't print anything it would run out of ink every few months. If you unplugged the printer to avoid those cleaning cycles it would eventually clog up. I agree that other companies like HP make it extra shitty with stupid DRM chips on their cartridges. But even without that, inkjet is just a bad technology.

Now I have a Lexmark laser printer and I've printed through a whole stack of paper in the over 8 years I've had it and it's still running the original toner cartridge. No cleaning cycles, no clogging and if I haven't used it in months I know the toner level will have remained completely unchanged when I eventually use it again. And when it finally runs out I know there are 3rd party toner cartridges available for it because no DRM.

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[-] urquell@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago

Mate, they sold you a printer that prints white?

[-] Lexam@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Had to pay twice as much for two colors but it was worth it!

[-] Hellstormy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Well, if it would only print black, you could not see the text!

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 6 points 1 month ago

I’m convinced this is the only good printer in existence. They are an absolute workhorse.

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[-] superduperpirate@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago

Disregard inkjet printers

Acquire laser printer

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[-] urquell@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago

Fuck you, HP

[-] whirlpoolbrewer@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago

I will throw this idea into the ether and hope someone with more time, knowledge, and talent than me builds on it: swap the brains of an HP Printer with a raspberry pi. All the motors and wiring are in place, and HP sells the printer for cheap to screw you on ink and software. You'd probably want a new source of ink and a way to refill the cartridges to fully cut out HP. I feel like this would get you pretty close at an affordable price.

The whole world wants the Linux version of a printer, we just need a couple people to get together and figure this out.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 month ago

The Linux version of a printer is just buy a brother color laser (or non color). I bought one for 85 bucks like 15 years ago and it still chugging along

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I would love to make a living lobotomizing smart devices.

[-] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

"The motor was unable to verify activation. Please contact HP support"

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[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Governments need to sue more companies for the environmental and resource damage they do with irresponsible business models like this. Get that money Mr. Government. It's laying on the floor for you to pick up.

[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

They do get that money. They are called bribes ... err, I mean ... It is called lobbying.

[-] Apepollo11@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Pro life tip.

  1. Buy a printer that accepts off-brand cartridges.
  2. Buy off-brand cartridges in bulk for further discounts (I buy 12-packs of 'Hicorch' cartridges for my Epson Stylus)
  3. Relax never having to worry about running out of ink.
[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 month ago
  1. Don't update the printer that might put DRM in after the fact.
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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago
  1. don't buy an inkjet printer
[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

Ink is for chumps. Real chads buy toner.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Better pro-life tip.

1)Buy a laser printer instead of inkjet and never worry about ink again.

That's it. That's the only step.

[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Or an ink tank printer. Way cheaper.

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Another way they get you: the ink cartridges that come with new printers are often only half full.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

half full is a very optimistic view. I've taken apart HP cartridges that were defective at my last job, the starter cartridges are maybe 1/8 to a fourth of the container when being generous, the instructions back when they used to have paper instructions would say there is only enough ink in the printer for about 10 pages worth

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[-] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 5 points 1 month ago

Way less than that. They put demo cartridges that are like 1/8 normal capacity, so you get a few pages and then gotta cough up.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 9 points 1 month ago

Also note that printers come with a smaller cartridge. Buying another printer isn't cheaper, even if it costs less.

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[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago
[-] punksnotdead@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago

Or you can buy a safety razor and a 100 pack of blades and never have to think about razors again for the rest of your life.

Shaving is one of the most basic of human grooming techniques going back hundreds of years, we figured that shit out ages ago. Ignore Gillette's marketing, ignore BIC's "cheap" prices. Just get a no-name safety razor and some blades and you'll be sorted for the rest of your life. You don't need fancy shaving creams either, lather up some soap and rub it all over your face. Done. Easy. Cheap. Sustainable. Now you can use your time on picking your nose or playing video games or whatever you wanna do for fun!

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[-] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Move over shockedpikachu.jpg

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

it used to be that way... then they came up with 'starter' consumables with a fraction of the useful ink/toner inside.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

After I bought a bunch of inkjet printers and figured out ink tank modifications ..... I finally just bought a good Canon Inkjet Printer.

After ten years of messing around with these dumb printers for about ten years my inkjet printer has been working fine for the past ten years and I've only ever changed the toner once and never had any problems.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everyone keeps raving about ink tank but I feel I need to specify, don't buy this style if you don't print at least once every few weeks, the lines will clog and it's a royal pain in the ass trying to remove a clog on these styles!

They look amazing if you do a lot of artists stuff and you use it frequently but if you're the college student or someone that may have to print out a report every other month or something like that, you are far better off going with a laser Printer. Less headache for similar pricing

note: this isn't a diss on the person I'm replying to, I acknowledge that tank printers are amazing at what they're good at, I've just had so many people bring me their ink tanks because they're clogged because they only use them maybe once every other month stating that the reason they went with the printer in the first place because it was supposed to not have the penalties that standard inkjets had, so I feel the need to clarify

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[-] Agrivar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

??

You said "ten years" so many times in one sentence that I'm honestly unclear on how much time passed.

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[-] Dr_Box@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yep. Can anyone explain why this is?

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Basically the business model is that if they can sell you a cheap printer at a loss, you won't consider a less cheap model from a company that isn't as shitty. Then they can lock you into years of buying their ink, which is overpriced deliberately.

Last I checked, if you need an inkjet printer, get a Brother or an Epson. All the rest will rip you off in various ways.

Even better, get a laser printer if you can afford it (or don't mind forgoing colour with a b&w model). For these, the above two brands, plus Ricoh, Xerox & Canon have a pretty good reputation last I looked into it

Never ever buy HP anything

[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

On top of this, the starter cartridges that come with the printer are often sized smaller than the refills.

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[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Unregulted corporate greed

[-] technomad@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 month ago

Because printer manufactures are money grubbing bastards.

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