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I would give you an upvote now, but I'd rather delay my gratification give you 2 later
The original experiment boils down to being a zip code test anyway
I don't get it
The joke is that in this version of the experiment, the child isn't being tested, the marshmallow is. And in this case, the marshmallow has decided to eat this one child instead of waiting until later, when it would have been allowed to eat two children.
Oh shit, I totally didn't see that the marshmallow was biting the kid. The image is so small it looked like a power outlet behind him on the wall
Same, was confused until I zoomed in.
Same! Man this really needs an edit where the marshmallow is biting from there opposite side of his arm.
Thanks. I didn't see the marshmallow chewing on the kids arm till I read this then zoomed in. Lol
I always found this study to be lacking...
5 minutes is not worth 1 marshmallow. Marshmallows are not that good, so one is way enough. As a kid, I could never trust adults who wanted to limit good things. Who's to say the strange adult in a white coat would really bring a 2nd marshmallow? What if they actually remove the marshmallow instead?
In short, it can only separate kids in two groups: the blind followers of authority and the other ones.
This is what I've said since I learned of this experiment. I'm only waiting for the second marshmallow if BOTH of the following statements are true:
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I want two marshmallows.
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I trust the adult to keep his word.
As a kid, I could never trust adults who wanted to limit good things.
Guess what? This effect has been found in other experiments!
The marshmallow experiment is one of those that self-help gurus and LinkedIn 'influencers' love to peddle as being meaningful, in no small part because it tells people who had lucky upbringings that they are inherently better than others, and not just a product of their environment. But when it's actually examined critically, it falls apart.
Time to calculate how much 1 marshmallow is worth in time considering minimum wage in my country.
Let's begin.
Minimum wage in Slovakia is €4.69/h.
An 80g bag of Jojo marshmallows is €1.19 at Tesco.
It claims one portion is 3 marshmallows which is 11.7g.
Therefore 1 marshmallow is 3.9g.
Therefore there are 20 - 21 marshmallows in the bag.
Therefore 1 marshmallow costs roughly €0.058.
€4.69/h is €0.078/m or €0.0013/s.
Therefore, 1 marshmallow costs roughly 44.62 seconds of work time.
Well, assuming there are no taxes. So maybe something close to 1 minute per marshmallow. Although... maybe if we add total time, including time you're not working... 12 marshmallows an hour, 288 a day, 2016 a week, 8640 a month. That's €501.12/month.
Based on this the minimum monthly wage after taxes and all is €661.80/month.
Conclusion: It is worth the 5 minutes.
Marshmallows are bad. 2 would be a punishment.
They should have done cookies instead.
And sweeten the deal. 1 cookie or a BAG.. Yeah, give me a BAG it cookies, yeah. I'm an ADULT.
We did this in church with maltesars
Way better than marshmallows!
I think we were also given 3. We were given one at the start of the small sunday school class, and if we had it at the end of it, we were given three more. So the difference was that if you ate it early, you still would have had to wait anyway.
Won't it melt from the heat in your hand/pocket? I ain't having chocolate stains in my pocket, I'm eating it now.
I know what the marshmallow test is; I don't get the joke in the comic. It depicts one of the kids who didn't wait. Where's the joke?
It's not the kid who didn't wait...
The marshmallow is eating the kid, not the other way round.
I think it's that he waited 5 seconds and got zero marshmellows?
Or he ate it already between the 2nd and 3rd panel, and is demanding the second one?
I didn't get it til another poster pointed it out -- instead of the kid eating the marshmallow, the marshmallow is biting the kid's arm.
I glanced over the comic a couple times, and each time I saw the kid tossing the marshmallow in the air as if to catch it in his mouth.
Oohh!
A shower thought about the original experiment:
It may have only measured how effective "waiting for future gains" was, as a strategy, for each child, in their circumstance.
So the real discovery may be only that the children already had a pretty good idea how promising their own futures were. :(
Or hungrier kids (aka poorer kids) get the marshmallow first. Or those in greater need of serotonin (at least I think it's serotonin) you get from sugar, etc. There's a variety of issues here, but that's true of most "experiments" that aren't actually randomized controlled trial experiments.
Or they're just natural born addicts like myself and need that instant reward and think to hell with my future self. That's his problem. Present me just got a marshmallow.
Hobbes will avenge him
Store-bought marshmallows are one of those things where I only really want one.
There's an ice cream shop few towns over that makes fresh, exotic flavored marshmallows, depending on the day they're better than sex. But even those are about the size your fist and honestly two would be a little bit too much.
Itt:
People not seeing the marshmallow speak, or bite the kid. Or the horrified look on the kids face.
Oh my god THAT'S why his face is like that and THAT'S the joke. I really didn't get this comic.
The best play is to eat the marshmallow immediately so that the experimenter moves onto the next test.
Such a silly experiment. You're gonna make them sit and be bored for five minutes with nothing else to do besides thinking about two marshmallows?
….will there be a new one every 5 minutes?
sometimes i think about that kid in the experiment
who was sat down and told to wait some time
before eating the sweetness put in front of him
that his patience would bring a reward
and i think about how they laughed when he didn’t succeed in waiting and instead
crammed the entire gummy bear into his mouth the second they left
looking so guilty afterward
the way they gloated and collected data and prognosticated about his future job prospects and potential success-
certainly not as good as those who waited, they said
it was something about self-control
i know all too well that when he got home
there were probably no sweets
or if there were, they were there for a moment only
before being snatched away by either cruel hands or circumstance
no guarantee that promises meant anything, much less that they were kept.
if it had been me in that chair
i’d have eaten it too.
I don't know what study you are referencing, but in ALL the behavior analytic literature on "self-control" that I know of, the experimenters provide the reinforcement as part of the study. Not only that, but there are usually repeated trials with the same individual to establish a baseline and some sort of experimental treatment to see if self-control-related behaviors can be shaped. If the research is done with individuals who are children or have Developmental Disabilities, they usually ask that whatever the reinforcers are be restricted for some amount of time prior to experimental sessions to minimize outside influence on the study. So, families are usually asked not to give that specific candy, or whatever, to the individual during the trial, but there will be a handful of opportunities to receive some.
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