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[-] red552@hexbear.net 55 points 2 years ago
[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

by that logic am I a class traitor

woah

time to go on a podcast and talk about the evil left on hexbear

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

its our fault you are pro genocide now, we shouldn't have been so rude wojak-nooo

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You could be right, but I don't care because you're rude about it. death-to-the-poor

[-] aaro@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

not only is it bourgeoise, but it is also homophobic, reactionary, haram, counterrevolutionary, ecocidal, and frankly cheugy as hell

[-] Abraxiel@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

The transition of marriage from a primarily economic union to one that is based in personal companionship is something that I think is actually a very good aspect of modernity.

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

I'm a high COL area it's often an economic union in large part.

[-] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Straight marriage is the union of one man, one woman, and one health insurance policy

[-] bumblebeehellbringer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

🤮 because it's true

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It can be, and it often is, but it's not because it is ontologically bourgeois or reactionary, rather it's because hegemonic ideology will grab onto every institution found in human life and ascribe it's values to it, turning it into a normalizing force that self-enforces itself in order to support the power relations that led to it existing in the first place, as is the case of marriage reinforcing the patriarchy and heteronormativity which led to marriage existing in turn.

Gramsci lays out in a great way how hegemony coopts institutions and human life gramsci-heh

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Do have any beginner reading you'd recommend of Gramsci? I got the first volume of the Prison Notebooks, but it was a bit out of my league.

[-] dannoffs@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

The prison notebooks are the bulk of his available work. I'd say read one of the "selections from Gramsci's prison notebooks" books.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

This is a good starting point! There's also no shame in reading annotated versions, where more accessible authors elaborate on the ideas present in the text. I can't recommend any in English because I've only read Gramsci in Spanish and Italian, but I'm sure there must be good translations of him in English, maybe even by pete-eat's dad.

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[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

When two people are under the influence of the most violent, most insane, most delusive, and most transient of passions, they are required to swear that they will remain in that excited, abnormal, and exhausting condition until death do them part. [G.B. Shaw, preface to "Getting Married," 1908]

You must imagine Sisyphus married.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

“i hate my wife lmao” the book

Death to America

[-] CarmineCatboy@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

all things and concepts are bourgeois if you can profit from them. case in point, wedding planners. in the people's republic of earth all weddings shall be planned by a chatgpt run by the government.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

asking the centrally planned chatgpt to plan my gender reveal explosion

[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Centrally planned weddings to go with the centrally planned economy.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

It is if it's a cottagecore wedding.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

well, women are bourgeois, so any wedding containing them is by extension, bourgeois. theory-gary

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

is lesbian marriage double bourgeoise

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

without doubt.

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Marriage in some sense predates the bourgeois

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago
[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes. Why do you think I got married? I need my wife’s family to back me for the blood feud with my neighbors over his McDuchy (which de jure belongs to me) that’s been ongoing for 3 generations

[-] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I would argue that our modern view of marriage is feudalist

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Marriage predates the feudal system

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

marriage is temple economics galaxy-brain

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

marriage is older than feudal which makes it patriarchal

it's an institution that dates back to when people were legally owned by their dad

although the concept of it being bad to murder your neighbour also dates back about that far so that isn't necessarily a criticism

[-] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

fellas is it gay to be straight

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Literally yes. Contrast with feudal arranged marriage. Gay marriage is also bourgeois but to less of an extent. It's just an adaptation of bourgeois (straight) marriage for gay couples. Marriage in China is also bourgeois. Cuban marriage is less bourgeois but not truly communist. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk.

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

This is a bit right

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

I conducted a representative double blind demographic unbaised survey of some catgirls i found hanging out in Hexbear and they said yes.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

If two bisexual people of the opposite sex get married, is it a straight marriage or a gay marriage? thinkin-lenin

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

it has two people of different genders so it's clearly a bisexual marriage

[-] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

It's a straight marriage with gay attributes

[-] bumblebeehellbringer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

It is a bisexual marriage

[-] Hewaoijsdb@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago
[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago
[-] aaro@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

whether or not that was self aware you have to admit it was extremely funny

Yes marry me instead.

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

Probably, I know a fair number of married Marxists, but all of them only got married for the tax benefits.

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