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[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I’m pretty far left of Harris ideologically and never really liked her or thought she was worthy of these powerful offices. I also never really expected that much from her. That being said, I was passionate about dropping Biden and supporting her campaign even at that late hour, given the immense implications of electing trump for a second term. I donated money, and rallied friends and family to get on board. Then she did that DNC speech and talked about the ‘strongest military’ yadda yadda yadda. All of that energy and enthusiasm instantly evaporated. Nothing she or her campaign did after that motivated any active support from me and I had to really fight off the urge to not vote for her. I’m entirely done with the Democratic Party as run by the current regime. Unless that party reforms, the US is absolute toast.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah. The DNC either don't realise, or refuse to realise, that electing Trump is not in approval of him, but expression of disapproval of the Democratic Party.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I never felt Harris actually stood for anything. This is easily the first election where I felt all the decisions made by the DNC were hard wrong - and I already thought the DNC fucked everything up when the turned on Sanders - but this time they really chose every bad option they could. A senior citizen that was absolutely having problems (outside the debate performance) and choosing an inclusivity* candidate that really had a checkered past of making climbing the ladder a priority while having no real policy gains or stances. Even in the lead up to everything, the other candidates were all but brushed aside. No real debate over policy or where the country was going.

She said whatever middle of the road thing needed to be said to appeal to enough people while leveling mealy criticism at best for the real problems, from Israel’s shitty war to attacks worker’s right in the US. We went from a candidate that should have never run again to a candidate that hadn’t given anyone a reason to want her to run at all at the last minute. And that’s awful, especially to lose against trump.

  • I hate to even say it, but the fact is that the DNC wanted to run a black female. They banked on the (I can’t think of the word/name for it - people who want to do things for a minority community, but do so cluelessly, remove agency of the group, disregard the actual needs and culture of the group. Usually modestly wealthy white people making “programs” for minority communities) people to vote for the feel-good of voting a minority person up while not actually thinking that people would have needs and policy concerns that would influence their vote, or their willingness to vote at all. The DNC already had “protect the rich white people” as a top priority. They didn’t think people were smart enough to sense that, and everyone really had a feeling that the Democrats didn’t care about them anymore.

Edit: found it. It’s “white saviorism” or “white savior complex.”

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[-] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I blame on dnc. They should not exist. We already have republican party if we need to vote for a party that works for billionaires. Unless AOC or Bernie, this country is doomed.

[-] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

He is 100% right like always

[-] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are there a cohort of people who vote Trump just as a middle finger to the so called left as a nihilistic protest vote?

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Damn right Bernie. Kamala and Pete Buttigieg need to GTFO.

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 month ago

It is perfectly fine, in fact it would be incredibly refreshing & welcome, to admit...she was a shitty candidate. Fuck, she was so terribly bad. And Tim Walz was a bad pick, too.

Everything was fake. Every day it unraveled more. She was caught saying things like, "I am different than Biden, I am not Biden, do not let his presidency reflect on me." What would you do differently? "Nothing, I wouldn't change anything." Okay....so....how are you different if everything Biden did was totally great & you wouldn't do anything differently?? 🤡 Heavily paraphrased, of course, the convos were more detailed (which only made it worse).

It's fine to say Kamala Harris was a cringe candidate. Completely unwanted, unelected, unqualified. Biden bowed out & the DNC shoved her in; there is no logical reason to continue to own her as your candidate & representative. You don't bring dead babies to Passover. This is an opportunity to rebrand the Democrat Party, to refocus on issues that actually matter. That is to say....if anyone still gives a goddamn about the issues that actually matter.

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

She failed to differentiate herself from biden in many different ways. One of which was her stance on genocide. Less people generally came out and voted for her in part due to these factors

[-] Zexks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Of all the reasons to not vote for her. Gaza is the dumbest of them all.

[-] Corn@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Remember the cops beating the shit out of students across the country? If she pledged to end support for Israel, instead of being "the other genocide candidate", Trump would have been the "resume genocide" candidate, and all those politically activated students would be getting their friends to vote. Between that and their response to 2020, they showed the next generation that the democrats are a dead end for enacting social change.

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[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

i hate the dnc but my perspective is mostly dont vote for the fascist

[-] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

That disqualifies democrats as well.

[-] mcv@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

I was so excited after she picked Tim Walz. It was starting to look like the most progressive ticket in decades, she was ahead in the polls, and then she turned around and started campaigning with Republicans and CEOs. Total betrayal.

And yeah, she disappeared. I hear more from Biden and Obama than from her.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

She made an imaginary rule in her head that she had to copy 100% of Biden’s polices no matter how unpopular.

The Democrats were offered a total reset from Biden’s unpopularity and instead decided to repeat it all. It was incredible how they threw away what should have been an easier victory.

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

She ran on Bidens policies because she is exactly like him. Middle of the road, pro establishment, corporate suck up, and always has been.

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

She tried to dance to the middle when Trump had a stranglehold on his cult of voters. Really stupid.

[-] ganryuzt@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

The middle? She was cavorting with Liz Cheney!

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh I fully agree, I almost didn't vote for her, she sucked ALL the hope out of her campaign, she had SO MUCH MOMENTUM, all she had to do was keep constantly showing up on the press to point out how incompetent Trump was and clearly appear competent. All she had to do was keep putting out positive messages about protecting rights and returning the country to normal and not insane racist hate land and it would have been a slam dunk. Coming up with ''well.. I am totally willing to meet genocide in the middle, if that's important to you'' was an insane gut punch.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Voters don't get to decide where the middle is.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty tired of people nagging voters to follow the rules the framing they set forth. Trolley problem, "voters dont get to decide where the middle is", etc.

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[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

It's not just Kamala Harris, it is democrats in general. I get that they want the first woman president ... but its not going to happen in this political environment. Many Hatian immigrants that voted for Trump just because they don't think a woman can be president. Copy that ... Trump said these people are eating cats and they still voted for him. Hispanics? News flash, they are predominantly Catholic ... so Pro Choice doesn't go over well for them. Then people got angry because Kamala skipped the whole nomination prosses. Stuff like this is why she lost. Biden should have ran, then resigned after he beat Trump again.

[-] RandallFlagg@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

Biden wasn't ever going to beat trump after that complete failure of a debate. Harris was the dems Hail Mary play after they finally realized that.

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah I thought the odds of her winning were less than 50% but they were still bette than the odds of Biden winning again.

[-] LogicalFallacy@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago

No way Biden wins a second time. His mind was critically failing during the debates, the average voter saw that, and minorities didn't win him the election overall, white people did.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

His mind was critically failing during the debates, the average voter saw that, and minorities didn’t win him the election overall, white people did.

Remember saying that and being called a useful idiot who bought into Propaganda? Pepperidge farm remembers.

And now they blame non-whites for the failures of the old racist dude and his token friend.

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I don't dislike Kamala, and Trump is a sociopath. I realize Joe Biden probably had cancer before he dropped out and that's why he dropped out. But I have to also say that voters probably didn't like the bait and switch approach where they suddenly felt they had to support her simply because she appeared as the candidate in the last legs of the campaign. I think diversity and female leadership is important, but probably asking undecided voters to go for a POC woman when that's not who they started out supporting probably didn't help. Old white centrists don't like that, and she didn't have time to build a campaign and show her skills like Obama did. Probably a good chunk of people straddling the line vote wise didn't love that. We had this happen in Canada recently with our new prime minister Carney, but he's an older white centrist dude, and we were clearly ok to hold our noses and do it to keep out the conservatives, but I think if it was someone like Kamala they might not have won.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Biden didn't drop out because of his cancer. He dropped out because that disastrous debate made it impossible for him to win. If he had really wanted to drop for his health, he would have done it at least the year before to give time for a primary.

[-] QuarkVsOdo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

She is a black women : Minus 500 Points for Gryfindor.

She walks in in a businessdress and looks as intimidating as the mortage lady from the bank: Minus 600 Points for Gryfindor

Her Party is made up from literal Fossils that won't give up power, even past 80, won't stop Making money from what seems like Stocktrading on privileged information: Minus 50 Points for Gryfindor.

She is as charismatic as Porridge: Minus 100 Points for Gryfindor.

Seriously fuck the bitch ass american racists and the democratic party that can't find a good candidate when so much is on the line.

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