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I know it's an important literary device in sci-fi but it always bugs me that whole planets are mostly mono-cultural with usually only up to 3 different governments.

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

This is why I could not get through Xenocide. I absolutely loved Ender’s Game and Speaker For The Dead, two of the all time greatest, but xenocide was so flawed I just couldn’t keep going with the series. Also, fuck Orson Scott Card in general.

[-] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The US, Japan, China, India and Europe all watch the same major block buster movies. We can talk to each other about the MCU and at least have some idea what each other is talking about. There are only a hand full of religions left in the world unless you want to counter obscure ones and each sect and even then three of those big ones are basically branches of the same religion. the most common language in the world is spoken by a large variety of people all over the planet while the second is pretty regional.

An advanced society would probably end up being monocultured going by the one model we have. Though it could depend on if they are a space fairing race and how long it takes to travel between 'settlements.'

[-] LeHorror@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Star Trek crew arrives at a planet. Meets a group of aliens. Meets another group of different aliens. Both aliens are literal opposites of each other. Doesn't agree about one issue. Crew fixes issue. Star Trek ship leaves.

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

Wait you read sci-fi where a planet has THREE governments?

Maybe I'm reading bargain bin material but the stories I see is a mono-culture, with a mono-religion and if I'm extra blessed, a single ecosystem like frost planet, or sand planet.

[-] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That was the original idea for alien. The aliens are actually this advanced cultured race. But they get crazy in childhood and puberty.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

I love this idea so much. The Predators we see in movies are literally trophy hunters, and maybe their home society views them the same way the majority of humans view human trophy hunters.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 0 points 3 weeks ago

The Predator version of the Office would be pretty funny.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Predator Jim pranking Dwight by leaving a xenomorph egg in his bottom drawer.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is a well known concept in sci-fi where civilizations massing in the tens of billions will have all kind of weird outliers. But at such a scale, even the really weird ones can form groups of tens of thousands or even larger. In sci-fi storytelling this is often used to explain weird behavior that probably wouldn't make a lot of sense otherwise.

It also comes up in the fermi paradox a lot. For example aliens always want to stay at home and not be noticed or interact with anyone. But at a certain scale of civilization that doesn't hold water. Even if 99.99% of a given alien species think that way, there would stil be at least a million of them that think otherwise and would be willing and able to act on it.

So it makes perfect sense for all the Predator people to be really normal and the hunting cult is a hobby that got out of hand.

[-] dxdydz@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I’m gonna need examples. I read a shit ton of science fiction and can’t recall having encountered this.

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 0 points 3 weeks ago

Check out the works of Alastair Reynolds, he loves to apply this principle in his books. Great on world building and describing the weirdest parts of large civilizations.

For more a meta/review/fermi paradox talk point of view check out the content from Isaac Arthur, he also likes to point out this when discussing things like the fermi paradox and sci-fi in general.

[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 0 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the suggestion, his stuff looks interesting. I realised I already have (but haven't yet read) "Pushing Ice", which looks like a standalone novel - but looks like there's also a whole set of works in the "Revelation Space" universe. Any recommendations of specific books of his?

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Most of his books are standalone, but set in the same universe yes. They kind of follow each other, but can also be read as standalone books.

Pushing Ice is one of the better ones imho, I love that book. The first book I ever read from him was Revelation Space and it blew my mind. One of the absolute best books I've ever read. He has a way of creating a universe that feels absolutely real and logical, yet be completely different from the world we know.

Another good one is Redemption Ark.

And if you like stuff like this I can also recommend Fred Saberhagen, his books are excellent. They are old but hold up pretty well.

[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 0 points 3 weeks ago

Brilliant, thanks. I'll see how I get on with Pushing Ice, but popped the others on the wishlist. I imagine I will very much like stuff like this, so added Fred Saberhagen too (The Berserker ones I've heard of before).

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

The redemption ark trilogy and anything connected to the conjoiners.

If you like Reynolds, Richard K. Morgan's Altered Carbon trilogy is top notch, the TV series was disappointing.

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