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[-] blazera@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

They do a lot to make not working less appealing, specifically as an employee. Absolutely no fruit trees allowed in public. Its illegal to exist outside long term. Lots of address requirements. Its illegal to sell a lot of homemade things(in my state at least you can only sell food if it was not prepared whatsoever. I can sell you a tomato i grew, but if i try to sell you tomato soup thats illegal), and its illegal to exist outside to sell.

[-] planforrain@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

It has become a gatcha game, you put time in and you might get something worthwhile out of it, or you might get more poverty

[-] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

capitalism has always carried the implied threat of starvation for those unable or unwilling to labor in order to enrich the capital owning class.

this sort of vapid whitewashing/revisionism is just 'maga' for neoliberals, and is entirely devoid of substance.

show me a period of prosperity under capitalism and I'll show you a marginalized population subjugated.

[-] Yasuke@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Be careful. You make too much sense!

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one -4 points 1 year ago

But you can definitely achieve these things. I'm not rich nor do I hold a college degree and I do it. I dislike my job as much as the next person but this is the world we live in. Would you rather 1984?

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

If those were the only two options, obviously not. But I think you know damn well that's not reality.

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one -3 points 1 year ago

Sure, there are other options. Name a better one.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Even that would devolve into a hierarchy. Someone will want power. It's happened before.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Where and when? All the instances I have heard about have been attacked by external powers, not taken over from within.

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Sure but there was always someone (or a sect of someone's) "in charge" calling the shots.

[-] areyouevenreal@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

How human behavior works? Yeah some. What you're on about, apparently not.

[-] planforrain@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Raising minimum wage or putting a social safety net in place so we have no working homeless or unfed children.

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

I don't disagree but this is a band-aid. I am not sure that there is a political or economic philosophy in place today (at least in the US) prepared or willing to deal with homeless or hunger properly. We get a lot of politispeak about doing this or that that effectively translates to nothing.

[-] Udonezo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because muh economy. Capitalism will always "push the bill" on what they can do. shite gov doesn't/wouldn't keep up with regulations to aide the working class.

My question is what's the point in eternal growth? Why would one cut employees but boost executives? Money corrupts? Or is it them "getting theirs"

[-] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I hate that term “eternal growth” and similar phrases, because it makes it seem like society as a whole grows eternally. It’s just larger increments for the ruling class. That’s it. The general public gets fucked for the ruling class.

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

The answers to your questions are money, money, yes, and yes. Most people would do the same if in that position.

I guess we could scrap the current system and adopt a new on that will no doubt evolve into essentially the same thing.

Human nature/behavior will not change because of a shift in political or economic philosophy. It's well documented.

[-] _wintermute@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because we live in a society where we literally need currency to survive. We pay to live and live to work to give our production to billionaires.

More unions is a step closer to being able to general strike.

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[-] theforkofdamocles@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

We did it, Red…er, Lemmy!

[-] Naz@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Lol you guys aren't even getting karma for that, is it just from an old habit?

[-] ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Lemmy does have karma

[-] nullishcat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

no it's just funny, there isn't even a total score in profiles

[-] Morcyphr@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

People can still have a home, family, stability. I and many of my peers manage it and we are by no means rich.

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