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I'm from Mexico, and the most used chat application is WhatsApp. It's used for EVERYTHING. I use Telegram only for contacting my family members (both my parents and my brother). They also use it only for this family chat. All my (and their) contacts use WhatsApp instead.

Now with the news that Telegram will collaborate with Twitter, I feel that I should delete it. Not that Zuck is any better than Musk, but still...

Also I don't think it's worth the effort to teach my parents yet another messaging app, like signal.

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[-] Zak@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago

Collaborating with Xitter is not the most distasteful thing Telegram has done. Its marketing model has been to consistently lie to people about being encrypted when that's only true in very limited cases. It has also catered to criminals by attempting to make it difficult to comply with legal demands for information, while holding that information for its own purposes.

Signal, on the other hand is always encrypted and does its best to hold as little information about users as possible.

Also I don’t think it’s worth the effort to teach my parents yet another messaging app, like signal.

What is there to learn? Every popular messaging app has pretty much the same UI.

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[-] destructdisc@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Switch to Signal. It's not like there's anything to learn, the UI isn't all that different from WhatsApp

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 19 points 1 month ago

there's no learning curve with Signal, it's almost exactly like whatsapp.

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[-] CodeBlooded@programming.dev 18 points 1 month ago

Here’s another comment endorsing Signal.

https://signal.org/

[-] Lootboblin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Telegram was developed by Russians and HQ is in United Arab Emirates. They have always been sketchy af.

Telegram's owners are at odds with the Russian government though, hence the move to another country.
There's plenty of problems with Telegram without having to resort to Russophobia already.

For example their chats aren't even E2E-encrypted by default and afaik there's no way to have encrypted group chats either.

[-] mitexleo@buddyverse.one 7 points 1 month ago

I personally avoid telegram for anything sensitive or personal. Because there is no end to end encryption. You should move to Signal.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I really distrust telegram. There are some many dark patterns around it and the server is closed source so I'd say the distrust is very well deserved.

[-] Alistaire@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

has there been cases where telegram chat been leaked/compromised?

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Many. One particularly awful case is how at the beginning of ruzi invasion of Ukraine a lot several Russian resistance figures were compromised through Telegram due to it using phone numbers for security which are incredibly insecure and needless to say in control of the government.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Also I don’t think it’s worth the effort to teach my parents yet another messaging app, like signal.

My friend, just set up Signal on their phones, put it in place of the Telegram app and watch them not even notice anything changed.

[-] creamlike504@jlai.lu 2 points 1 month ago

Not if they're the kind of users my parents are. An update moves a button from the bottom-left to the bottom-right and suddenly "the app you gave me is broken again".

Also, don't sneak-change things on other people's phones.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

If you get rid of Telegran, at least you'd only have one shitty messenger instead of two.

[-] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Threema. And don’t forget, real privacy and security, with centralized services, is never free. The app is tested by third party and is open source. And, you don’t have to share your phone number, unlike with Signal.

[-] SavinDWhales@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

You no longer have to share your phone number in signal. They added a unique user identifier a while ago that you can share to add new contacts. This is not permanent by the way, you can change this user identifier anytime.

[-] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

I downloaded telegram about a year ago when I first heard about it. There is a feature to find and talk to people in the same area as me. It was all just escorts with nudes as their profile pics. I'm honestly surprised Google and Apple allowed it on their stores.

[-] javiwhite@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you're familiar in any capacity with self hosted tech. Id suggest checking out matrix servers. I setup one for family and friends a few months back. Currently it's only running on a 2 core 8 gig ram vps with around 15 regular users, and ticks over fine. It's routinely used as a phone chat client like WhatsApp, as well as for voice channels instead of discord.

You can utilise multiple different clients; but I would suggest element, as they're the closest to WhatsApp, and therefore the easiest for people to adopt. (Afaik, it's the only matrix client with voice & video call support too).

Matrix servers run on the concept of decentralised federated servers, with the idea that as the technology expands, admins can federate with other matrix servers and allow cross communication (in much the same way the fediverse works).

[-] lisko@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

You could use Delta Chat if you wanted...

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